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View Poll Results: What is worst for the image of WTA?
safina #1, no slam, playing badly for a long time 32 22.07%
serena "I am nr1" going crazy at US Open semifinal 22 15.17%
reaching GS semi's beating 1 top-40 player (being razzano) 5 3.45%
mother coming back after 2+ year off and winning GS at 3rd tournament 17 11.72%
WTA-board not sanctioning Dubai organizers heavily in Peer-gate 4 2.76%
all top-10 players losing more than once against low ranked players 11 7.59%
most of the seeds crashing out of tokyo and beijing in the first rounds 4 2.76%
wozniacki retiring while winning with 7-5 5-0 in luxembourg 11 7.59%
WTA #201 wins a Premier tournament 13 8.97%
new roadmap: almost no top players at international tournaments, injured / not interested ones at mandatory 26 17.93%
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WTA 2009: became women's tennis a joke? What shows it the most?

After seeing what Wozniacki just did, I just have to think as this whole year as a complete joke.

1. Safina being Nr.1 and playing like crap for a long time + not able to win a slam
2. Serena "I am the real Nr.1" Williams completely losing it at the US Open semifinal
3. WTA board not giving heavy sanctions to Dubai organizers for not letting Peer play
4. Reaching the semifinals of a grand slam beating Razzano - Peng - Errani - Kvitova - K.Bondarenko
5. A mother winning a grand slam at 3rd tournament after more than 2 years away from the tour
6. Wozniacki retiring at 7-5 5-0 in the first round of Luxembourg
7. All top-10 players having multiple losses against low-ranked players
8. Most of the top seeds crashing at first round matches in Tokyo and "Mandatory" Beijing
9. WTA roadmap, international tournaments without top players and injured top players at mandatory events
10. WTA-201 winning a premier tournament

And I guess there are a lot more, feel free to add them!
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it's been the best season for years, so many break through players and a real battle for top ranking.

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After seeing what Wozniacki just did, I just have to think as this whole year as a complete joke.

1. Safina being Nr.1 and playing like crap for a long time + not able to win a slam
2. Serena "I am the real Nr.1" Williams completely losing it at the US Open semifinal
3. WTA board not giving heavy sanctions to Dubai organizers for not letting Peer play
4. Reaching the semifinals of a grand slam beating Razzano - Peng - Errani - Kvitova - K.Bondarenko
5. A mother winning a grand slam at 3rd tournament after more than 2 years away from the tour
6. Wozniacki retiring at 7-5 5-0 in the first round of Luxembourg
7. All top-10 players having multiple losses against low-ranked players
8. Most of the top seeds crashing at first round matches in Tokyo and "Mandatory" Beijing
9. WTA roadmap, international tournaments without top players and injured top players at mandatory events
10. WTA-201 winning a premier tournament

And I guess there are a lot more, feel free to add them!
A $300,000 fine + a $2million performance guarantee for the sake of the future of the event...

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the joke is geting old
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A $300,000 fine + a $2million performance guarantee... for a $2 million tournament...
What is "$2 Million performance guarantee"?
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What is "$2 Million performance guarantee"?
From online: A deed guaranteeing the performance of a party's obligations under a commercial agreement.

So in this case, the obligation is that everyone who wishes to participate is allowed to play, otherwise bye-bye to $2 million (the total value of the tournament!)

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From online: A deed guaranteeing the performance of a party's obligations under a commercial agreement.

So in this case, the obligation is that everyone who wishes to participate is allowed to play, otherwise bye-bye to $2 million (the total value of the tournament!)
OK, thanks.
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From online: A deed guaranteeing the performance of a party's obligations under a commercial agreement.

So in this case, the obligation is that everyone who wishes to participate is allowed to play, otherwise bye-bye to $2 million (the total value of the tournament!)
well, i didn't see peer play this year...
they could've made a statement immediately: or everyone, or noone!
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I think it's safe to say the Roadmap was an utter catastrophe. Much of the rest of the idiocy of the past year flowed from this misbegotten abortion of an idea, which, as many here and elsewhere predicted, actually made the things it was supposed to fix worse (yes, top players didn't skip tournaments--instead they showed up and either lost because they were worn out, or defaulted due to injury, which IMHO is worse than withdrawing) and introduced new problems with poor scheduling, catastrophic travel arrangements that left players too groggy to compete... let's just say that Lena trimming her bangs was the second worst idea of the past 10 years in the WTA and leave it at that.

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well, i didn't see peer play this year...
they could've made a statement immediately: or everyone, or noone!
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so you are saying that a statement, or many statements is/are heavier sanctions than the fines that they received?

and peer not playing was the reason for the sanctions, so that's why you didn't see her play

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so you are saying that a statement, or many statements is/are heavier sanctions than the fines that they received?

and peer not playing was the reason for the sanctions, so that's why you didn't see her play
In Dubai "money" is a relative thing... So still they got away with it. IMO wta should 've immediately showed who's in charge, but no, they gave them a fine.
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In Dubai "money" is a relative thing... So still they got away with it. IMO wta should 've immediately showed who's in charge, but no, they gave them a fine.
I personally thought it was a little too late to do anything drastic like stop the tourney from happening as many players were already in Dubai. But tbh, i think the sanctions were enough (and enough to guarantee it doesn't happen again), and you clearly don't, so know I am not trying to stop you thinking otherwise We're seeing it all over again with Bali potentially, so maybe the WTA didn't get the message through

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I personally thought it was a little too late to do anything drastic like stop the tourney from happening as many players were already in Dubai. But tbh, i think the sanctions were enough (and enough to guarantee it doesn't happen again), and you clearly don't, so know I am not trying to stop you thinking otherwise We're seeing it all over again with Bali potentially, so maybe the WTA didn't get the message through
indeed, let's hope...
i also kind of expected more from the (top) players at the beginning of the tournament, like a real statement as roddick did. i would've been really disappointed if venus wouldn't have said anything after winning it. thank god she did
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After seeing what Wozniacki just did, I just have to think as this whole year as a complete joke.
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Wozniacki retiring while winning with 7-5 5-0 in luxembourg isn't that bad. The fact that's she top 5 is awful though.
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