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Williams had every right to be angry, because this was an awful, foolish, atrocious, silly call. Clijsters had played so well, so intelligently, and she didn't need any help earning a match point. The small crowd assembled inside Arthur Ashe Stadium endured a day of rain, as did fans watching on television at home. Lots of money—and a lot more pride—was on the line, and as replays showed, this was hardly an egregious foot fault, if it was even a foot fault at all. There's a difference between being a conscientious official and being officious, and this lineswoman certainly crossed that line. She inserted herself into a match that should have been decided—frankly, that was moments away from being decided—by two first-rate athletes. People pay to see athletes, not a lineswoman.
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Doesn't matter if it was a foot fault or not. Doesn't matter if it was a bad call or not.
Serena's reaction was completely unacceptable, and she has NO-ONE to blame but herself.

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Doesn't matter if it was a foot fault or not. Doesn't matter if it was a bad call or not.
Serena's reaction was completely unacceptable, and she has NO-ONE to blame but herself.
That's the point, it DOES matter.

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That's the point, it DOES matter.
But it doesn't. As much as i didnt want to see the match end the way it did.

Serena's actions were out of order.

Awful line calls, bad calls for foot faults happen all the time (Safin US08), point is, it was her choice to threaten the lines person....

Yeah i can understand the heat of the moment etc, etc.. but either way she was out of order and the refs/umpire had no choice.

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Doesn't matter if it was a foot fault or not. Doesn't matter if it was a bad call or not.
Serena's reaction was completely unacceptable, and she has NO-ONE to blame but herself.
Serena accepted her penalty for what she did. Where is the accountability to the fans for the officials incompetence?
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But it doesn't. As much as i didnt want to see the match end the way it did.
Serena's actions were out of order. Awful line calls, bad calls for foot faults happen all the time (Safin US08), point is, it was her choice to threaten the lines persons.... Yeah i can understand the heat of the moment etc, etc.. but either way she was out of order and the refs/umpire had no choice.
Yeah Serena should not have reacted that way.

But the call itself is at the very least a questionable one.

I'm glad this guy is pointing that out.

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The point about the foot fault is mute..... unless you were on that baseline, you don't know. Their is no evidence. No camera directly on the line.

Rules are rules.. You can't change them, just because its a big game in a big match.

Although personally, i feel the foot fault rule should be gone. At this point it's still there.

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The point about the foot fault is mute..... unless you were on that baseline, you don't know. Their is no evidence. No camera directly on the line.

Rules are rules.. You can't change them, just because its a big game in a big match.

Although personally, i feel the foot fault rule should be gone. At this point it's still there.
I don't think the call is a moot point at all. I think it's a very relevant point. Obviously nothing we say now will change what happened or how Serena behaved, but going forward there should be challenges for foot faults or something. IMO.

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I don't think the call is a moot point at all. I think it's a very relevant point. Obviously nothing we say now will change what happened or how Serena behaved, but going forward there should be challenges for foot faults or something. IMO.
I hear what ya saying, but it still doesn't excuse Serena's outburst.
For me, they should just get rid of the whole foot fault rule...

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I hear what ya saying, but it still doesn't excuse Serena's outburst.
For me, they should just get rid of the whole foot fault rule...
If they excused her behavior, then they would have let her continue to play.

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wow I was just reading this article and was thinking about posting it. i would also like to get Wertheim's take on it but he hasn't updated yet.

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But it doesn't. As much as i didnt want to see the match end the way it did.

Serena's actions were out of order.

Awful line calls, bad calls for foot faults happen all the time (Safin US08), point is, it was her choice to threaten the lines person....

Yeah i can understand the heat of the moment etc, etc.. but either way she was out of order and the refs/umpire had no choice.
You'll find it does matter. No shitty call, no shitty behaviour, no loss of match on a point penalty.

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