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WTF! Where are the camera angles?

I missed the match last night, had to work. So this morning been searching for the angles that clearly show Serena's footfault. Make no mistake about it, the angle exists which clearly shows the fault. The mere fact that it is not shown is suspicious. Let me add nothing excuses Serena's behavior. But if she really did fault, it would be plastered on every newspaper in America. The fact that it is missing speaks volumes!

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Re: WTF! Where are the camera angles?

I don't think they do have it - I think they would have shown it in the broadcast if they had it. Normally when there's controversy over something like this, they would show it from all available angles.
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Re: WTF! Where are the camera angles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpV3L...layer_embedded

u can watch this and see that it clearly was not a foot fault
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u can watch this and see that it clearly was not a foot fault
where on that video is it clearly not a footfault?

The only replays I've found in there are an angled view from the back of the court and prove absolutely nothing, it's impossible to tell from that sort of angle. The only conclusive angle would be a side-on camera angle.
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I don't think they do have it - I think they would have shown it in the broadcast if they had it. Normally when there's controversy over something like this, they would show it from all available angles.
Trust me they have multiangle shots on every side and baseline. If it is not shown, someone does not want it shown.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpV3L...layer_embedded

u can watch this and see that it clearly was not a foot fault
it's hard to say whether it is from your video
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Trust me they have multiangle shots on every side and baseline. If it is not shown, someone does not want it shown.
Okay Mulder.

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Trust me they have multiangle shots on every side and baseline. If it is not shown, someone does not want it shown.
Don't think so. I can't recall seeing a slow-motion replay with a close-up side view of the baseline at any time in the tournament. I think they cut costs by removing those cams. They also don't want them to interfere with Hawk-Eye - it could put the system into question. But it leaves us stranded when it comes to those foot fault calls.
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Don't think so. I can't recall seeing a slow-motion replay with a close-up side view of the baseline at any time in the tournament. I think they cut costs by removing those cams. They also don't want them to interfere with Hawk-Eye - it could put the system into question. But it leaves us stranded when it comes to those foot fault calls.
I've not seen any replays from that angle this tournament either... Shame!
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Don't think so. I can't recall seeing a slow-motion replay with a close-up side view of the baseline at any time in the tournament. I think they cut costs by removing those cams. They also don't want them to interfere with Hawk-Eye - it could put the system into question. But it leaves us stranded when it comes to those foot fault calls.
Remember the stare down after Serena's footfault, well they showed a baseline shot confirming that in fact she did footfault, had a little skip in her footwork. If you watch Serena this time around the foot is sturdy does not move at all...........no footfault. But they do have a more conclusive angle. I would bet on it.

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Trust me they have multiangle shots on every side and baseline. If it is not shown, someone does not want it shown.
Should they have that? Yes. DO they!?!?

What would it take, really, to cover every foot-fault? Four cameras, and operators, focused just on the feet of the servers, a pair for each dervice line. Technologically feasible, yes, but expensive, given how infrequently foot faults are called.

Simply put, I don't believe the Triads had threatend to kill the lineswoman's family if she didn't make a bad call at a critical junction to throw the match to Clijsters. Or whatever the conspiracy theory of the week is. Serena lost her composure. It happens.

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don't u know the tennis "powers to be" and espn both plotted that a foot fault would be called during a crucial time. therefore, no camera angles showing the baseline were allowed.
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Re: WTF! Where are the camera angles?

They don't keep a camera on that line anymore. They used to in the days of the "Mac Cam" on CBS. But with ShotSpot, they don't need to for line calls. Too bad we don't have a better view. From behind, it doesn't look like a foot fault. But apparently Serena admitted that she thought she did foot fault. The call is the call, and it's not changing.
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Re: WTF! Where are the camera angles?

Long time ago they used to have the baseline camera, but there is no need for it now that they have HawkEye.



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Re: WTF! Where are the camera angles?

Know that I am not the only one who saw the replay of Serena's footfault after the staredown. Someone else had to see it and the angle.

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