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Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Why the hell is Andy Murray discussing the Williams Sisters. They have won multiple grand slams this season, singles and doubles. maybe when he wins a few he can pass judgement but until then. Shut up. He only got number 2 but Nadal not playing Wimbledon.

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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Ofcourse Haggis will say that, he is in the same slamless boat as Safina.
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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Its pretty clear why Murray would defend Safina- he was pretty close to finding himself in the same situation. That said, I dont think what he said was totally unreasonable.

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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Serena's consistency at the non slams tournament is not great. I don't think Murray said anything wrong there to be honest - more like stating the obvious. Having said that, I think Federer or Nadal would be in a better position to talk about that, because they're the slam winners and number 1's and they really know what it's all about: Great consistency at the majors and also great consistency at the smaller events.

I wish Serena would do better in non majors so that this wouldn't even be a talking point.

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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

I hate Andy Murray as much as I hate Ana Ivanovic but I agree with him, if the rankings don't count the non-Slams then the entire tour becomes irrelevant. These lesser tournaments do need some status within the sport to attract viewers. And they need the best players to show up with their best tennis.

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Plus the WTA doesnt want to weight all importance on the ITF events. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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Serena's consistency at the non slams tournament is not great. I don't think Murray said anything wrong there to be honest - more like stating the obvious. Having said that, I'd think Federer or Nadal would be in a better position to talk about that, because they're the slam winners and number 1's and they really know what it's all about: Great consistency at the majors and also great consistency at the smaller events.

I wish Serena would do better in non majors so that this wouldn't even be a talking point.
Federer has already expressed his opinion about slamless number 1s.
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I hate Andy Murray but hes right. Hes basically repeating what the majoirty of TF say about their consistency.

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I hate Andy Murray as much as I hate Ana Ivanovic but I agree with him, if the rankings don't count the non-Slams then the entire tour becomes irrelevant. These lesser tournaments do need some status within the sport to attract viewers. And they need the best players to show up with their best tennis.
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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

I agree with Andy Murray. Their is nothing wrong with his statement.
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Federer has already expressed his opinion about slamless number 1s.
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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Murray still doesnt know what hes talking about.... maybe he doesnt follow the history of his sport, but there have been men players ranked #1 without winning a slam and just last year. Nadal held more slams than Federer and still wasnt number 1... Had Federer not stunk up the summer hardcourt season, Nadal might not have gotten to #1....

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Murray still doesnt know what hes talking about.... maybe he doesnt follow the history of his sport, but there have been men players ranked #1 without winning a slam and just last year. Nadal held more slams than Federer and still wasnt number 1... Had Federer not stunk up the summer hardcourt season, Nadal might not have gotten to #1....
Rios is the only guy on the ATP who got to number 1/stayed at number 1 without a slam.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

The reason Nadal hadn't got to number 1 as soon as he won Wimbledon was because Federer had a huge cushion and a huge lead before the start of the year. To be honest your comparison is quite laughable.
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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

Of course he's right.

And this argument "more titles = more right to an opinion" is complete bollocks. So nobody must say anything even remotely critical about Serena or Roger because they have the most slams of the players at the moment? What the hell is that?

The guy took a perfectly reasonable line in response to Overrends remark that the rankings should be weighted even more in favour of the slams - that if you do that, the tours suffer because what's the point playing all these smaller events.

Most players cannot support themselves financially just off their slam earnings apart from those lucky few who are that good that consistently. The two tours are what make it possible for a lot of these players to play as a profession and if you make them completely irrelevant then you don't get the big players playing the events, you don't get the sponsorships or the bums on seats, so you make it increasingly unviable for people to make it as professional tennis players. You discourage young players from trying to make it, or sticking with it if it's a struggle early on, and eventually you hurt the slams by reducing the talent pool available to play at these events.
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Re: Who the Hell is Murray To Talk.

He's perfectly right in what he's saying, another non-issue on Tennis Forum.

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