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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

Kuznetsova is a mindcase. She plays well only at times, and generally she has to face a good opponent to play well .
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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

Well, I guess Woz' is better right now, but I know who's game I prefer.

Azerenka's!

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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

This year's GS loses -

Azarenka -

Aus Open - Lost to Serena Williams

RG - Lost to (1)Dinara Safina

Wimbledon - Lost to Serena Williams

US open - Lost to Fransesca sHCIAVONE

Wozniacki -

Aus open - Lost to (187)Dokic

RG - Lost to (41) Cirstea

Wimbledon - lost to (41) Lisicki


Its pretty obvious that Caro made the semi at USO purely based on an easy draw
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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

Sorana never reached SF

I guess "better" is a sticky term. We are comparing their achievements of their young career and everyone develops at a different rate. Caro has taken advantage of some cakewalk draws and played more matches than anyone so next year if she cuts down her schedule, and when her USO points fall off she will go back to where she deserves to be, behind Vika.
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This year's GS loses -

Azarenka -

Aus Open - Lost to Serena Williams

RG - Lost to (1)Dinara Safina

Wimbledon - Lost to Serena Williams

US open - Lost to Fransesca sHCIAVONE

Caroline -

Aus open - Lost to (187)Dokic

RG - Lost to (41) Cirstea

Wimbledon - lost to (41) Lisicki


Its pretty obvious that Caro made the semi at USO purely based on an easy draw


Excuses, excuses... I can do that too:

- It's pretty obvious that Caroline only lost to Cirstea because of shoulder and back injury.

- It's pretty obvious Azarenka's only significant title came because Serena was injured (healthy Serena crushed her later in the year)


etc.


As you can see, that's easy but also quite silly so let's leave the excuses out of the picture and focus on the facts.


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Excuses, excuses... I can do that too:

- It's pretty obvious that Caroline only lost to Cirstea because of shoulder and back injury.

- It's pretty obvious Azarenka's only significant title came because Serena was injured (healthy Serena crushed her later in the year)


etc.


As you can see, that's easy but also quite silly so let's leave the excuses out of the picture and focus on the facts.
So you mean to tell me that when people say she had an easy draw (because she faced just one top 20 player till the fucking final) its an excuse? The easy draw is right in your face and while Caro's mysterious injuries arent.
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So you mean to tell me that when people say she had an easy draw (because she faced just one top 20 player till the fucking final) its an excuse? The easy draw is right in your face and while Caro's mysterious injuries arent.
No, because the players she beat were the ones who beat players like Venus, Safina etc.

Also, Caroline just beat Kuznetsova.

As for Caro's injuries. Even Cirstea acknowledged it before and after the match. Caro was at the hospital too getting scanned.

If you're going to make excuses, I can too.



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No, because the players she beat were the ones who beat players like Venus, Safina etc.

Also, Caroline just beat Kuznetsova.

As for Caro's injury. Even Cirstea acknowledged it before and after the match. Caro was at the hopstial too getting scanned.

If you're going to make excuses, I can too.



The reality is that you Caro haters are all eating crow right now and choking on it.
When did caro beat players who beat Venus, safina etc, at this USO? If you are goign to make excuses atleast make them properly

Fact still remains, Caro made the SF because of an easy draw
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When Azarenka finally manages to string all the components of her gamew together she's going to be incredible.
Caroline will always just be incredibly consistent.
I think both are future grand slam champions though-could be a good rivalry.

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When did caro beat players who beat Venus, safina etc, at this USO? If you are goign to make excuses atleast make them properly

Fact still remains, Caro made the SF because of an easy draw
You said "because she faced just one top 20 player till the fucking final" so I got confused and assumed you were talking about Madrid where Caro reached the final but was blamed for a cakewalk draw just because a lot of top players got osuted early. Of course I made a mistake in mentioning Safina because she was the one in the final with Caroline


Anyway, if you were talking about this USO, she beat Kuznetsova and blasted Cirstea and Oudin (who beat Dementieva, Sharapova and Petrova). That's pretty convincing.

I mean, Azarenka lost to Shchiavone.



Saying Caroline made the SF because she got lucky is no different from me saying "Azarenka won Miami because she was lucky Serena was injured" or "Azarenka made QF at FO because she was lucky her opponents didn't play their best". There shouldn't be any excuses when it comes to slams (unless injuries or something are involved). Either you beat the player or you beat the player who beat the player. Doesn't really matter. All slams start out with a solid draw so put away the "easy draw" excuse.


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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

vika obviously vika trashed caroline the last two times theyve played.vika had to face the world no 1 and 2 in her qfs while caro had no 70,so yes caro did benefit from an easy draw.
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You said "because she faced just one top 20 player till the fucking final" so I got confused and assumed you were talking about Madrid where Caro reached the final but was blamed for a cakewalk draw just because a lot of top players got osuted early. Of course I made a mistake in mentioning Safina because she was the one in the final with Caroline


Anyway, if you were talking about this USO, she beat Kuznetsova and blasted Cirstea and Oudin (who beat Dementieva, Sharapova and Petrova). That's pretty convincing.

I mean, Azarenka lost to Shchiavone.
Caro lost to opponents who were lower raked than Schiavone in all the 3 previous grandslams this year, so there is no need to gloat. As I said, the only reason Caro is makign this SF is because she faced just one top ranked player the while tournament.

And she shouldn't be given the full credit for beating them anyways, 1/4th of her total winners were luck because of net cords
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Azarenka had to play Safina, and S.Williams. Wozniacki played Oudin. Huge difference. Also, 6-1 6-3, and 6-2 6-2.

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Caro lost to opponents who were lower raked than Schiavone in all the 3 previous grandslams this year, so there is no need to gloat. As I said, the only reason Caro is makign this SF is because she faced just one top ranked player the while tournament.

And she shouldn't be given the full credit for beating them anyways, 1/4th of her total winners were luck because of net cords
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Caroline's opponents were lower ranked, yes, but Caroline was only 18 (and like I said, injured against Cirstea). Azarenka wasn't making quater finals when she was 18 either (nor was she making semi finals when she was 19 either like Caro HEHE)

Caroline is higher ranked, has more titles and a better slam result than Azarenka despite the fact that she's a whole year younger. FACT.

The rest is just petty excuses.


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Re: Caroline Wozniacki vs Victoria Azarenka. Who is better?

I think both a good in different ways
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