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The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

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Three times in Serena Williams career, she has fought back from match point down in a Grand Slam event, to win the Major tournament outright.

This is the most telling statistic as to why she is the best player in the world.


People talk about her speed, power and physical attributes. But she wins because she is mentally tough. And she doesn't melt in critical moments.


What other player currently on tour will ever have a statistic like that at any point in her career?


The answer is none of them. Almost all of the current crop of WTA players are mentally small, emotional, indecisive, cry-babies. They are beautiful, rich, sassy, head-cases.


They don't have the focus to match Serena Williams. That's why Serena is the best in the world and the most dominate player of her era.
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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

I think the most telling stat of Serena's career is her winning and even H2H with the current Top 30.

It ends at 0-1 Chakvetadze.

After that it goes actually all the way through the current Top 100.

She has a winning or even H2H with 99/100 players.
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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

That's another great stat, which further proves the point. She rises to the occasion!
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First of all, I'm not criticizing Serena's fight, let's get that straight.

But I don't get how that is an amazingly "telling" stat. If a player is playing well, there should be no MP against them. The stat is only indicative of a player's ability to dig out of poor play.

Especially in Serena's case, where her A game rarely loses more than six games TOTAL.

And wow, there's a lot of newbies lately.

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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

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First of all, I'm not criticizing Serena's fight, let's get that straight.

But I don't get how that is an amazingly "telling" stat. If a player is playing well, there should be no MP against them. The stat is only indicative of a player's ability to dig out of poor play.

Especially in Serena's case, where her A game rarely loses more than six games TOTAL.

And wow, there's a lot of newbies lately.


I think that stat is amazing. It shows how clutch she really is. I contend that Serena wins tournaments mentally as much as she does physically. The Wimbledon semifinal is a perfect example. Elena was the better physical tennis player. Serena was the smarter and mentally stronger tennis player. That's why she won.
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It's incredible. So clutch.
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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

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First of all, I'm not criticizing Serena's fight, let's get that straight.

But I don't get how that is an amazingly "telling" stat. If a player is playing well, there should be no MP against them. The stat is only indicative of a player's ability to dig out of poor play.

Especially in Serena's case, where her A game rarely loses more than six games TOTAL.

And wow, there's a lot of newbies lately.
a champion is not only known by how high their highs are, but if they can win while at their lowest...look through tennis history post challenge round and tell me if all the greats never had to save mp in at least 1 match...

and believe me, there are a lot of people on tour who had immense talent and could only win once they were playing well...and if they played a piss poor match by their standards they were guaranteed to lose...so it IS telling stat that serena has been able to save MP

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I think the most telling stat of Serena's career is her winning and even H2H with the current Top 30.

It ends at 0-1 Chakvetadze.


After that it goes actually all the way through the current Top 100.

She has a winning or even H2H with 99/100 players.
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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

In 3 of her 11 Major Championships, Serena faced a match point at some point in the tournament and overcame it to win the entire event. I think that says it all.
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In 3 of her 11 Major Championships, Serena faced a match point at some point in the tournament and overcame it to win the entire event. I think that says it all.
No, it doesn't. But it does show that she's not afraid to fight out of a hole even when match point down...and she's the best at it (all-time).
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In 3 of her 11 Major Championships, Serena faced a match point at some point in the tournament and overcame it to win the entire event. I think that says it all.
The most telling stat of Serena's IMHO is actually that she has never lost in the first round of a slam. Furthermore, she has only lost in the 2nd ONCE.

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Has anyone ever won a Slam from being down mp 3 times?

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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

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The most telling stat of Serena's IMHO is actually that she has never lost in the first round of a slam. Furthermore, she has only lost in the 2nd ONCE.
That second round loss was at the Aus Open her first grandslam and and she lost against her sister. That was the first time I saw Serena and was instantly a fan after that.

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Re: The most important (and telling) statistic of Serena's career

No more than a -1 H2H with ANY player Active or Retired.

-1: Sun, Sanchez-Vicario, and Chakvetadze (I think those are the only ones)
=: Graf (I'm sure there are more)
+: EVERYONE else


Career Grand Slam in your 20s? Been there done that. Career golden slam your 30s?
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*CHAKVEGOAT
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And those are all impressive stats, I didn't expect any less from Serena, really.
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