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Venus needs to stop being a big sister and start thinking about her legacy.

When venus first beat her sister in a slam, she felt more pain for her sister than joy in the win, then preceeded to lose a "serena" slam worth of grand slam finals to her sister. She finally break through and beats her at last years wimby, serena gets upset, then in the following U.S open, Venus loses a SF she has absolutely no bussiness losing. she comes into the wimby final, playing what many like wade, considered the greatest grass court play they had ever seen, tennis so good as to be sublime, and comes the finals against her sister, that player just disapears and she becomes ordinary. She is 29, she has maybe 3 good years left, at some point she is going to have to stop being a good big sister and start thinking about her legacy. Serena saying she is a legend should not be good enough for her as a professional tennis player.
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I am pretty sure that she Plays to win everytime she gets on court...

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God go away. Nonsense.

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I am pretty sure that she Plays to win everytime she gets on court...
I;m not saying she went out there to lose, but she did not go all out, anyone who has seen her play this tournment can tell you that, she did not move at all, unlike her sister, she has always held back, and im not the first person who has said it. it said when she lost the 4 stright grand slams. But today it was particularily obvious. her body langage was terrible, if there was a word for her today, it was listless. She may make errors, and have mental lapses, but i have rarely seen her listless, and she was listless today, and i cant imagine her being listless against anyone else. Even in the final she lost against hingis she had fire, she had zero fire today.
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I;m not saying she went out there to lose, but she did not go all out, anyone who has seen her play this tournment can tell you that, she did not move at all, unlike her sister, she has always held back, and im not the first person who has said it. it said when she lost the 4 stright grand slams. But today it was particularily obvious. her body langage was terrible, if there was a word for her today, it was listless. She may make errors, and have mental lapses, but i have rarely seen her listless, and she was listless today, and i cant imagine her being listless against anyone else. Even in the final she lost against hingis she had fire, she had zero fire today.
Matchups matter. Watch Roddick tomorrow. He will look nothing like he did in his last couple of matches.
Venus takes every chance she gets against Serena. She beat her 10 out of last 21 times and even served up a bagel on her last year.
Serena happens to be a bad matchup for Venus when she is playing well.
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She went all out last year but she chose to lose this year? As disappointed as she looked and as well as Serena played and actually HELD the level, she was always going to lose this match.

She got too tentative late in the 1st. Watch the match or highlights. Late in that first set her length and pace dropped. Shots were barely clearing the net/service line.
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I;m not saying she went out there to lose, but she did not go all out, anyone who has seen her play this tournment can tell you that, she did not move at all, unlike her sister, she has always held back, and im not the first person who has said it. it said when she lost the 4 stright grand slams. But today it was particularily obvious. her body langage was terrible, if there was a word for her today, it was listless. She may make errors, and have mental lapses, but i have rarely seen her listless, and she was listless today, and i cant imagine her being listless against anyone else. Even in the final she lost against hingis she had fire, she had zero fire today.
And? Sometimes Ur on sometimes your off she faced someone that was playing awesome and lost just like Serena faced someone who was playing great in Dubai and lost , just like Vee faced a better player in the Usopen etc. Lets just move on because its as hard for Vee to play Rena as it is for Serena to play Venus

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I;m not saying she went out there to lose, but she did not go all out, anyone who has seen her play this tournment can tell you that, she did not move at all, unlike her sister, she has always held back, and im not the first person who has said it. it said when she lost the 4 stright grand slams. But today it was particularily obvious. her body langage was terrible, if there was a word for her today, it was listless. She may make errors, and have mental lapses, but i have rarely seen her listless, and she was listless today, and i cant imagine her being listless against anyone else. Even in the final she lost against hingis she had fire, she had zero fire today.
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She went all out last year but she chose to lose this year? As disappointed as she looked and as well as Serena played and actually HELD the level, she was always going to lose this match.

She got too tentative late in the 1st. Watch the match or highlights. Late in that first set her length and pace dropped. Shots were barely clearing the net/service line.
Disagree with that. if the shot she hit on break point that barely missed had gone in, The match would have been totally different. Serena would have been the one to panick prolly as Venus would have served out the set more than likely.....

The match was a match of serving...and Serena's serve held up till the end....I was impressed with both of their serving first set.... Anyone who says Venus has no second serve.... look at some of those kick serves that were waaaaay over Serena's head in the first...

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Last year Venus made it a track meet, and she won.

This year Serena made it a serving contest, and she won. Serena's servign was just out of this world.
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I am pretty sure that she Plays to win everytime she gets on court...
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