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French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiqqDoh-I9c

This is the 2nd round in 2009 French Open, Zheng Jie vs Michelle Larcher De Brito. The linesman called in, and the umpire called it out. He even checked the wrong ball mark. It is the game point of Jie, while Jie was leading 4-3 at that time. There's a big difference between 4-4 and 5-3.

As a Zheng Jie fan, I am extremely disappointed at this. What is the WTA doing? This is a grand slam! Similar incidents happen a lot in other matches. For justice, please install the hawk eye! Don't tell me that you don't have the money and time for this!

Also, Michelle clearly knew that it was in. Shame on her for not voicing it out, and shame on the umpire too.


P.S. my focus is not on whether this shot can change the results or not, and I also know that wrong judging happens always in tournaments. However, should some measures be taken to prevent similar cases? At least, train your umpires

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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

haha I remember that scene it was just ridicolous. Typical macho-behaviour. He overruled then Zheng made him to check the mark and he pointed on the line and said it was "out" I hate people who can't correct themselves.
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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

They wouldn't have hawkeye on this court anyway
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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

What the hell. That umpire should go back to $10Ks. That kind of grave error is unforgivable at a Grand Slam. I'm also disappointed by Michelle's classless behavior.

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I agree, TOTALLY !!

as for the Michelle part, I don't see any sportsmanship in her,AT ALL !!!
the whole screaming thing is just annoying !!
I mean, come on, she is louder and more screechy than maria and venus....
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They wouldn't have hawkeye on this court anyway
yeah ...but we're talking about the whole FO, not only court 7...
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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

Somebody went to recruit new Chinese people to come here and protest this outrage?


Lot of bad line calls in tennis. That's the way it has been, is and will be, so get used to it. Players have to play just that much better to overcome it.
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So this is why Jie lost. She let this amateur umpire get to her. I don't blame her. This is the worst error I've seen since the Venus/Sprem tie break fiasco.

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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

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Somebody went to recruit new Chinese people to come here and protest this outrage?


Lot of bad line calls in tennis. That's the way it has been, is and will be, so get used to it. Players have to play just that much better to overcome it.
That's true, but man, this is a GRAND SLAM. Technology improves hell lot, so don't reminisce the old days. All the other grand slams installed them already, so why not FO?

Also, it's not about race or whatever. If you understand Chinese, you should know that the man in the video says that Zheng should improve mentally to overcome these things

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I agree, TOTALLY !!

as for the Michelle part, I don't see any sportsmanship in her,AT ALL !!!
the whole screaming thing is just annoying !!

I mean, come on, she is louder and more screechy than maria and venus....
Totally agree with you!!!

Ridicolous!!! What a huge mistake!!!
OMG...she is so louder in this match...

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So this is why Jie lost. She let this amateur umpire get to her. I don't blame her. This is the worst error I've seen since the Venus/Sprem tie break fiasco.
I don't blame Jie's lost to one bad call. After all, it was her responsibily to bounce back and let it go. She didn't and she lost.

But still, the umpire and Michelle
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Totally agree with you!!!

Ridicolous!!! What a huge mistake!!!
OMG...she is so louder in this match...
Her screams give me headaches No wonder Zheng can't bear it.

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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

There has been much worse calls than this in bigger matches. Seems petty to have a whole news article focussed on it, the guy made a mistake, Jie was not the better player though and she had much more experience so should have risen above it. I admit its unfair but C'est la vie, non?

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Re: French Open should install the hawk eye immediately, see what happens without it?

Very poor umpiring.

I dont think court 7 needs hawkeye though.
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There has been much worse calls than this in bigger matches.
To point at a mark about 50 cm away from the actual bounce when you made an overrule is ridiculously poor.

Sure, the call in Serena - Capriati was even worse...
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