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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old May 26th, 2009, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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You be the Official (default or code violation)

I will give a few examples of clear code violations. You tell me if you think it should be just a code going with the point penalty schedule, or an immediate default.

1. After disagreeing with a line call, the player looks directly at the line umpire and clearly says, "F*ck you."

2. Same situation, only this time, not looking directly at the line umpire says, "call it out you f**ker."

3. After disagreeing with a decision by the chair umpire, the player, from the baseline, hits a ball hard, clearly aiming at the chair umpire, but the ball misses the umpire.

4. After a point, a player accidentally hits a ball very hard and recklessly and the ball hits a ballboy on the shin. The ballboy is not injured and is kind of laughing about it after it happens.

5. Same thing, only this time it hits the ball boy in the stomach, and the kid is bent over obviously hurt badly.

6. A player takes a bathroom break escorted by a line umpire. The line umpire comes to you after the bathroom break and tells you that the player's coach met him outside the court and was giving the player instruction. After the line umpire told the coach he couldn't to that, the coach immediately stopped.

7. Same situation, only this time, after the line umpire told the coach he couldn't do that, the coach continued to give instruction.

8. A player takes a bathroom break, escorted by a line umpire. The line umpire reports to you that the player went into the locker room, lied down on a bench for 2 minutes, then got up, went to the sink and rinsed his face off, then came back to the court.

These are all situations that have happened by the way.
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Re: You be the Official (default or code violation)

3, 6, 7 should all be defaults.

What about...

9. A player asks to go to the toilet, escorted by the line juge. When they come back, the line judge tells the umpire that they have performed sexual intercourse.

...that's very possible btw, I wonder if Vaidisova has done it....

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Re: You be the Official (default or code violation)

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3, 6, 7 should all be defaults.

What about...

9. A player asks to go to the toilet, escorted by the line juge. When they come back, the line judge tells the umpire that they have performed sexual intercourse.

...that's very possible btw, I wonder if Vaidisova has done it....
But if that happened, why would the line judge tell the umpire? And is there even a rule against that? My thinking is that it would be within the rules as long as the girl still goes to the bathroom during the break and as long as she's not gone for longer than she's supposed to be. And actually, this wouldn't be a bad strategy for a female player because studies have shown that female athletes perform better after sex. (For men it's the opposite. They perform worse after sex.)

Anyway, this got me thinking about something else... If the penalties for some of these things are losing points and/or defaulting, then what happens if you do them after you've already lost? Is there no penalty then?

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Re: You be the Official (default or code violation)

1 & 2 - I don't see an obvious difference in the two scenarios. Code violation.

3 - Default. The player could have seriously injured the chair umpire.

4 - Code violation. Although the ball boy may want to "act tough" in that situation, he may still be a bit hurt. However, this is not enough grounds for a default.

5 - Default. Actions have consequences; the player wasn't "lucky" this time.

6 - Default. This unauthorized discussion could change the outcome of the match.

7 - Same as above. Default.

8 - Code violation. Maybe the player had stomach cramps. I would find it hard for a player to be defaulted for laying down for 2 minutes in a time where injury timeouts are so prevalent.
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Re: You be the Official (default or code violation)

#1. Default. The key is "looks right at the line umpire." Anytime that a player says this, and there is eye contact with the official, it is most likely going to be a default unless the chair umpire doesn't hear it and the line umpire doesn't report it immediately.

#2. Code Violation. No eye contact, not as personal. Definitely a code, ESPECIALLY if there are mics on the court.

#3. Most likely a default, however the chair umpire has to be very sure that the player was aiming at him, (i.e. umpire has to move to get out of the way). If there is not the clear intent to hit the umpire, it would be a code and not default.

#4. Code
#5. Default (see above posts for explanation on 4, 5)

#6. Code violation. The key being that the coach stopped immediately after the line umpire stepped in and said something.

#7. Default. Blatant disregard to what the official says. They have the chance to stop when the line umpire steps in, if they don't, they will be subject to a default.

#8. Most likely default. The line umpire escorting the player should (is trained) to tell the player they at least have to go into a stall. Once a player goes into the stall, they can pretty much do what they want. A toilet break is solely for using the toilet. A shower, or cool off, or face rinse only, is subject to a default. The exception may be in a futures or challenger with a young player who will get a code and be informed by the supervisor that this can't happen again.
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