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After 1R rate the top contenders

Rate those who you think are top contenders or dark horses for the FO after the first round
Here's mine.

Safina A+
Serena C played bad but if her knee holds up she can beat anyone
Venus B-
Elena A-
Jankovic B-
Sveta didnt see her match but she is definitely a contender
Ana C- she is not winning playing like this

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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Ana C-? She played one of her best matches in months.


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Sveta A+ for 1st set, B+ for 2nd id say
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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Safina A
Serena C (obviously in trouble: even with the knee trouble she shouldn't be dropping a set to someone like Zakapalooza.)
Dementieva B
Venus B
JJ A
Ana B
Kuz B
Wozza C
Azza B

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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Safina A+
Serena C+ but it is pointless reading into a R1 struggle for her.
Venus B
Elena B- losing 7 games to Scheepers
Jankovic B+ very solid but as usual unspectacular
Sveta B pretty poor second set against a girl that moved like a cow on ice
Ana B still plays dumb a lot of the time
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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Um...

Differentials for the top players after round 1 -

Ivanovic - +12
Kuznetsova - +9
Sharapova - +7
Venus - +4
Serena - 0
Safina - 0
Jankovic - -1
Dementieva - -13

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Ana C-? She played one of her best matches in months.
which is pretty sad..... anyways... Safina A+?... just cause she double bageled some poor girl.....

I didnt see the match, but usually a double bagel speaks more for the person who couldnt manage to get a game than the person who did the bageling....Someone playing a hot mess all you have to do is be solid to get that result.... Waay too soon to be throwin out A+

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I think Ana deserves at least a B. Her forehand is absolutely crazy, and that alone can probably get her to the 4r if it stays how it did in the first round. She's probably better than anyone on that side at the moment.
Safina: A+. Damn
Serena: C. I would give a D, but I watched her doubles and it was a lot better.
Venus: B. Oh Venus. Stop giving me a heart Attack
Elena: B. Didnt watch. Just assuming
Sveta: B+. The girl really improved in the second set. Still expect her to make the Semis and probably mentally collapse.

And JJ. Her forehand is better than its been since the YEC, and her backhand is coming around. She's just making too many errors on shots that could be winners. B+

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which is pretty sad..... anyways... Safina A+?... just cause she double bageled some poor girl.....

I didnt see the match, but usually a double bagel speaks more for the person who couldnt manage to get a game than the person who did the bageling....Someone playing a hot mess all you have to do is be solid to get that result.... Waay too soon to be throwin out A+
You have to watch that match to know.
I doubt she can keep up that level. Keothavong didn't deserve that bagel at all. She was playing pretty well, but Dinara was too good

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Serena was EVEN?!?! I thought she hit way more errors well it was her first win since beating Vee in Miami


Safina - A: didn't get challenged by Anne, but didn't allow that to make her complacent
Serena - B- : I think the 2002 USO was the last time Serena had a dominant first round and went on to win a major....she's won 5 other ones since then
Venus - B: Mattek is a good player, and I mean Venus and Serena really don't need to post 6-0 6-0 scorelines to strike fear into the field...they just need to advance
Elena - B: I didn't see her match, but she got through. The Dokic encounter will be MUCH more telling
Jelena - B: Average performance. Didn't really impress me....but it's the 1st round.
Sveta - A- : I have high hopes for her. I hope she can do well here (but not too well).

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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Safina

Kuznetsova

Venus
Serena






Dementieva




Jankovic











Ivanovic
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Its waaaay to early to tell. You never know with Venus and Serena..they can start off playing horribly in the first week and then end up winning the whole thing..(Venus wimbledon 2005, Serena Australian 2007) dont sleep on them...I never count my girls out until they are actually beaten!

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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

My evaluation of the major contenders.

Dinara - I judge her by holding serve. She hasn't been broken in her last 2 matches.
She's improving in that, and to win majors she has to hold constantly in week 2

Serena - Whenever she's still in the draw she's dangerous.

Venus - I think she's capable of stepping up in week 2 also, so she just needs to win

Elena - I don't think she's played well since January. So I'll take any wins as a positive.

Jelena - She seems off her best form the whole year. Still like that in round 1

Svetlana - I think she has a big shot. But if she has to beat Serena, Elena and Dinara in a row, that's a tough draw.

Ana - I still think her power makes her very dangerous

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Ivanovic played by far the best match among all title contenders. Dementieva played the worst.
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"I didnt see the match, but usually a double bagel speaks more for the person who couldnt manage to get a game than the person who did the bageling..."


I don't think that's a rational analysis. 6-0 6-0 means there was a huge gulf between the players: this could be because one was very weak on the day, or it could be because the other was very strong on the day, or both. Against a top-50 player, a double bagel is the strongest possible evidence of good form in the victor.

If we followed your analysis, we'd judge Safina better if she'd lost a couple of games, rather than effecting the shut-out.

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Re: After 1R rate the top contenders

Safina was the best, Ivanovic next.

Jankovic didn't look all that great, just enough to get through.

Serena played alright, could've been better but got through. If anything, she got the most from her 1R in terms of time on court, getting into the tournament. In a way, that's more ideal than beating a player inside an hour.

I didn't see Dementieva's.



The 1st week is of little significance regarding who is going to win. You just need to get through. The second week (4R+) is basically a different tournament alltogether.
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