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Does Venus hit has hard as she used to? and other intriguing questions......

I have always wondered...........
One thing I know in the 90's she hit hard but the amount of topspin she put on the ball did not make it that obvious. Does she still hit hard? I think so, maybe harder.


What about Davenprt, Seles, Hantuchova?

As you get older does a player change their game and leave the style they were known for?

Are players better when older or younger?
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Re: Does Venus hit has hard as she used to? and other intriguing questions......

this is kind of similiar to my thread. Players do change and develop strengths. They also can lose what was their greatest ability as they age.

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Re: Does Venus hit has hard as she used to? and other intriguing questions......

She would be wise to use the topspin she used to, particularly this time of year.

I don't know why people think hitting hard is always good, or necessary.
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^^^^^^^ Its necessary in todays game.
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Re: Does Venus hit has hard as she used to? and other intriguing questions......

I think she hit harder 2000 to 2002 but she centainly hits harder now than she did in 2004/early 2005.
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Re: Does Venus hit has hard as she used to? and other intriguing questions......

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She would be wise to use the topspin she used to, particularly this time of year.

I don't know why people think hitting hard is always good, or necessary.
Agreed. Look at Nadal who hits with extreme topspin, enables him to hit out on the ball which clears the net high but drops fast at end of the arc, thus staying in the court. A topspin ball is harder to return than a flatly hit ball. Venus uses a semi-western grip which helps generate topspin. I don't see that has changed in her game of late. And her placement skills are still very good --- equally, if not more, important than hitting hard.
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I think she hit harder 2000 to 2002 but she centainly hits harder now than she did in 2004/early 2005.
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I think she hit harder 2000 to 2002 but she centainly hits harder now than she did in 2004/early 2005.
Completely agree. I also think it has something to do with confidence, after she won Wimbledon in 2007 she went back to hitting the ball harder especially at the USO that year and still is now. Also her serve in 2004/2005 if I remember correctly wasn't really being struck as hard as she was back in 1999-2003 and back in 2007 she also really gunned that back up. So I honestly think how hard she hits is dependent on her confidence, but that's just my opinion


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^^^^^^ You have the best avies and sigs.

But I never knew ball striking is a confidence thing with vee.
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Venus really pushed the ball a lot in 2004-2006 and her serve rarely cleared 120, and it was almost always in the body. Then again, I remember her playing Davenport in Stanford where she either hit a winner or an error, it was such careless play I really wondered what the hell she was doing.

Serena plays such a smarter, more tactical game than Venus does which is really odd because at times Venus can play brilliant strategy (Amelia Island 2002 for example) but thats rare.
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good question..idk..i dont think she goes for as much shot per shot..but i think at times he hits just as hard

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I feel she did hit harder. She was also more fearless than she is now.

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Completely agree. I also think it has something to do with confidence, after she won Wimbledon in 2007 she went back to hitting the ball harder especially at the USO that year and still is now. Also her serve in 2004/2005 if I remember correctly wasn't really being struck as hard as she was back in 1999-2003 and back in 2007 she also really gunned that back up. So I honestly think how hard she hits is dependent on her confidence, but that's just my opinion
I totally agree with Vee it does seem to be about her confidence and belief.
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i still go with Acapulco Final on clay
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Venus really pushed the ball a lot in 2004-2006 and her serve rarely cleared 120, and it was almost always in the body. Then again, I remember her playing Davenport in Stanford where she either hit a winner or an error, it was such careless play I really wondered what the hell she was doing.

Serena plays such a smarter, more tactical game than Venus does which is really odd because at times Venus can play brilliant strategy (Amelia Island 2002 for example) but thats rare.
when Venus plays hard...
she usually gets those wrists problems...

she was playing very tactically by the end of last year
especially when she serve those bagels!!
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