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Martina Hingis is innocent

Just to silence the haters even more please read the following :

http://www.cnsproductions.com/druged...aine-positive/

"Prior to 1998, the US threshold level for a positive opiate urine test was a morphine concentration greater than 300 nanograms/ml (ng/ml) or 0.3g/ml. Those levels were changed to concentrations greater than 4000 ng/ml for morphine and 2000 ng/ml for codeine in response to the recognition that poppy seed contamination could indeed result in false-positive opiate test at that level. This is 13 times greater than the amount that would have resulted in a positive urine test for opiates prior to 1998! The International Olympic Committee (IOC) set their threshold for morphine at 1000 ng/ml and will re-examine any disputed positive opiate test upon request. A nanogram is equal to 1000 micrograms so these levels are equivalent to 4.0 g/ml and 2.0 g/ml in the US and 1 g/ml for the IOC.

Antibiotic medications like amoxicillin or ampicillin have been misidentified as cocaine in some tests."

Also, the nail in the coffin for this subject is right here :

http://www.acmt.net/cgi/page.cgi?aid=7&_id=52&zine=show

"The National Institute for Drug Abuse standard for a positive urine for illicit use of cocaine is: 1) a positive screening procedure with a threshold of detection at or above 300 ng/ml with a confirmation of the presence of benzoylecgonine above a threshold at or above 150 ng/ml using gas chromatography/mass spectroscopy"

42 NG/ML is NOT a positive for cocaine.

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This article discusses passive cocaine exposure.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../full/102/1/e5

"we considered results positive only if results exceeded a cutoff of 50 ng/mL."

Even in a BABY, 42 NG/ML is NOT a positive result from passive exposure.

Consider this as well :

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backis...research01.htm

"cocaine threshold, 300 ng/mL"

Unless you are at 300 NG/ML the FBI does not consider this positive.

It's time for the Martina haters to shut up and apply logic and science to the matter.

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Who cares? Martina wasn't winning at that point, anyway. She was on her way out without the coke. Cocaine is not a performance enhancing drug. Martina can sniff sniff sniff all she wants now.
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Re: Martina Hingis is innocent

42 NG/ML is not an accepted positive in any valid test known anywhere.

42NG/ML is only 14% of 300NG/ML or 28% of 150NG/ML. Either way it is a small percentage of what an accepted positive is considered.

Martina is innocent.

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Just to silence the haters even more please read the following :

http://www.cnsproductions.com/druged...aine-positive/

"Prior to 1998, the US threshold level for a positive opiate urine test was a morphine concentration greater than 300 nanograms/ml (ng/ml) or 0.3g/ml. Those levels were changed to concentrations greater than 4000 ng/ml for morphine and 2000 ng/ml for codeine in response to the recognition that poppy seed contamination could indeed result in false-positive opiate test at that level. This is 13 times greater than the amount that would have resulted in a positive urine test for opiates prior to 1998! The International Olympic Committee (IOC) set their threshold for morphine at 1000 ng/ml and will re-examine any disputed positive opiate test upon request. A nanogram is equal to 1000 micrograms so these levels are equivalent to 4.0 g/ml and 2.0 g/ml in the US and 1 g/ml for the IOC.

Antibiotic medications like amoxicillin or ampicillin have been misidentified as cocaine in some tests."

Also, the nail in the coffin for this subject is right here :

http://www.acmt.net/cgi/page.cgi?aid=7&_id=52&zine=show

"The National Institute for Drug Abuse standard for a positive urine for illicit use of cocaine is: 1) a positive screening procedure with a threshold of detection at or above 300 ng/ml with a confirmation of the presence of benzoylecgonine above a threshold at or above 150 ng/ml using gas chromatography/mass spectroscopy"

42 NG/ML is NOT a positive for cocaine.

FURTHERMORE :

This article discusses passive cocaine exposure.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../full/102/1/e5

"we considered results positive only if results exceeded a cutoff of 50 ng/mL."

Even in a BABY, 42 NG/ML is NOT a positive result from passive exposure.

Consider this as well :

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backis...research01.htm

"cocaine threshold, 300 ng/mL"

Unless you are at 300 NG/ML the FBI does not consider this positive.

It's time for the Martina haters to shut up and apply logic and science to the matter.
If the WTA Tour, ATP or the ITF used the FBI or National Institute for Drug Abuse standard for their drug testing, your post would be relevant. Since they don't, it isn't. Sorry.

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Not true. No accepted worldwide standard for a positive is 42 NG/ML.

Show me where 42 NG/Ml is a known and accepted standard for a positive outside of the WTA, which is not a medical insitution nor a law enforcement agency capable of understanding the science behind the test. They hold tennis games, and are hardly qualified to comprehend the science behind drug tests.

Not even in an infant baby, whose system is much smaller and concentrated, is 42NG/ML a positive.

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i enjoy cocaine here and there

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Not true. No accepted worldwide standard for a positive is 42 NG/ML.

Show me where 42 NG/Ml is a known and accepted standard for a positive outside of the WTA, which is not a medical insitution nor a law enforcement agency capable of understanding the science behind the test. They hold tennis games, and are hardly qualified to comprehend the science behind drug tests.

Not even in an infant baby, whose system is much smaller and concentrated, is 42NG/ML a positive.
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The World Anti-Doping Agency, that's where.

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Re: Martina Hingis is innocent

Clearly, her levels must have been higher than what WADA allows. Perhaps the 42 ng/ml is wrong. Where did you get that number from?

(that said, I do think her punishment is too harsh as I don't consider cocaine to be performance enhancing)

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I still don't know why cocaine is even tested for.

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Dunno why you think that'll silence anyone ---> she failed the tests and thats that. (your links are crap! btw)

She surely wasn't a lying cheat and her drug issue isn't performance enhancing. She has my very best regards!

Get help if yah need it Martina!
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