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Live changes on daily basis of WTA TOP-800 You will always find here at great TBE WTA Ranks Update Thread, but because big competition and very tough fights for every of TOP10 places in womens tennis continue Year by Year, people here is always confused what will (maybe) happen with some players rankings next week, next month, at next slam... etc... So I decide to open this helpful thread which will follow in same time most interesting WTA rankings battles - for #1 spot (most intrigue), for TOP4 (very important b/c seeds at mandatory events), YEC TOP-8 (race to Year End Championship), TOP10 in-out contenders, Seeds candidates at next slam candidates (TOP32 in general) and about newest TOP100 potential debuts (or comeback girls)...


2009 Summary

Season Highest:
#1 Jelena Jankovic (1)
#1 Serena Williams (1)
#1 Dinara Safina (1)
---------------------------
#3 Elena Dementieva (3)
#5 Ana Ivanovic (1)
#5 Venus Williams (1)
#5 Vera Zvonareva (5)
#8 Svetlana Kuznetsova (2)
#8 Victoria Azarenka (8)
#9 Maria Sharapova (1)
#9 Nadia Petrova (3)
#10 Agnieszka Radwanska (9)
...etc...


#1 Changes:
till February 2 Jelena Jankovic (5 Weeks)
FEB 2 - APR 20 Serena Williams (12 Weeks)
since April 20 Dinara Safina (at least 4 weeks)




LATEST PROJECTIONS

Fight for #1 (with TOP4 Calculations):
- Dinara Safina will reach #1 on April 20 and become 19th #1 in WTA history. But she has to defend many points from last season claycourts.
- Serena Williams first good opportunity to back #1 spot again is after Madrid Mandatory b/c she defends 420 pts less than Safina from Berlin and Rome 2008.
- Elena Dementieva will hardly repeat Wimbledon 2008 SF success at grass, so for eventual chances for WTA#1 she must reach at least RG final with good "premier" results at clay.
- Jelena Jankovic needs to be dominant 2009 claycourt player which include RG title to be serious contender for #1 again. But between RG and USO she don't have very good results last season so she will be #1 contender at least till August.
- Venus Williams to reach #1 before Wimbledon needs much better 2009 clay season than Serena, similar like Safina and not way too much worse than Dementieva, Zvonareva or Jankovic. Good clay results of non-#1 contenders (Ivanovic. Kuznetsova, Azarenka...)
- Vera Zvonareva #1 race case till August is very similar with Jelena Jankovic, but she now has problem with injury wich maybe ruin her claycourt season this year.

No more #1 serious contenders before US Open, and even with RG title chances that Ivanovic, Kuznetsova, Azarenka... fill reach TOP4 before Wimbledon is very weak.


TOP4 PROJECTIONS (With TOP10 Calculations)

RANKINGS TRACKER FOR THIS WEEK (STUTTGART/fes)
Code:
9221 Dinara Safina - W
9071 Dinara Safina - F
8951 Dinara Safina - SF or worse
8273 Serena Williams
7581 Elena Dementieva - W
7570 Jelena Jankovic - W
7431 Elena Dementieva - F
7420 Jelena Jankovic - F
7391 Elena Dementieva - SF or worse
7350 Jelena Jankovic - SF or worse
7102 Venus Williams
6160 Vera Zvonareva
5174 Ana Ivanovic 
4862 Victoria Azarenka - W
4776 Svetlana Kuznetsova - W
4712 Victoria Azarenka - F
4626 Svetlana Kuznetsova - F
4592 Victoria Azarenka - SF
4512 Victoria Azarenka - QF
4506 Svetlana Kuznetsova - SF
4488 Victoria Azarenka - before QF
4426 Svetlana Kuznetsova - QF
4366 Svetlana Kuznetsova - R16
4308 Svetlana Kuznetsova - R32
4170 Nadia Petrova - W
4140 Caroline Wozniacki - W
4020 Nadia Petrova - F
3990 Caroline Wozniacki - F
3956 Agnieszka Radwanska - W
3900 Nadia Petrova - SF
3870 Caroline Wozniacki - SF
3840 Nadia Petrova - QF or worse
3806 Agnieszka Radwanska - F
3790 Caroline Wozniacki - QF or worse
3686 Agnieszka Radwanska - SF
3606 Agnieszka Radwanska - QF or worse


Fight to TOP-10
If Petrova lose before SF C.Wozniacki need Stuttgart semifinal to finally reach TOP10 and be 1st Danish TOP10 in history. Radwanska needs title for TOP10 comeback next week[/B]



YEC-8 2009 RACE

CURRENT TOP20:
3451 (7) - WILLIAMS, SERENA
2520 (6) - ZVONAREVA, VERA
2515 (8) - DEMENTIEVA, ELENA
2290 (5) - AZARENKA, VICTORIA
2051 (5) - SAFINA, DINARA
1720 (9) - WOZNIACKI, CAROLINE
1690 (6) - WILLIAMS, VENUS
1317 (9) - BARTOLI, MARION____
1210 (5) - IVANOVIC, ANA
1076 (5) - KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA
1047 (9) - RAZZANO, VIRGINIE
1035 (9) - SUAREZ NAVARRO, CARLA
980 (5) - MAURESMO, AMELIE
880 (6) - JANKOVIC, JELENA
862 (9) - KANEPI, KAIA
817 (8) - BENESOVA, IVETA
785 (6) - LISICKI, SABINE
766 (8) - VESNINA, ELENA
756 (8) - MEDINA GARRIGUES, ANABEL
725 (7) - PAVLYUCHENKOVA, ANASTASIA


AVERAGE POINTS PER 2009 TOURNAMENTS:
493 (7) - WILLIAMS, SERENA
458 (5) - AZARENKA, VICTORIA
420 (6) - ZVONAREVA, VERA
410 (5) - SAFINA, DINARA
314 (8) - DEMENTIEVA, ELENA
282 (6) - WILLIAMS, VENUS
242 (5) - IVANOVIC, ANA
215 (5) - KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA
196 (5) - MAURESMO, AMELIE
191 (9) - WOZNIACKI, CAROLINE
147 (6) - JANKOVIC, JELENA
146 (9) - BARTOLI, MARION
131 (6) - LISICKI, SABINE
116 (9) - RAZZANO, VIRGINIE
116 (6) - ZHENG, JIE
115 (9) - SUAREZ NAVARRO, CARLA
113 (5) - DOKIC, JELENA






TOP32 Seeds Roland Garros 2009 contenders:
It's too early to give serious projections when differences is so small.


MOST INTERESTING TOP-100 Candidates:
Of potential debuts most interesting is Michelle Larcher De Brito case (also interesting and close are 1990+ girls Pervak, Rus, Voegele and Pivovarova).
There is several former TOP50 girls which is close for comeback to TOP100, but most intrigue case (till Maria drop from TOP100 ) is 1970-born former WTA #4 Kimiko Date-Krumm.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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LONG TERM PROJECTIONS


Points from WTA BIG EVENTS:
Code:
Tournament            AO   RG  Wim  USO                IW  Mia ESP CHN    UAE  ITA  Cin  CAN  JPN
P L A Y E R              Grand Slams          YEC         Mandatory              Premier-5
                     2009                            2009 2009           2009                         
Serena Williams      2000  180 1400 2000      370       0  700            350  220               
Dinara Safina        1400 1400  180  900      210     250   80              1            860  860
Elena Dementieva      900  500  900  900      530       5  140            200                    
Jelena Jankovic       280  900  280 1400      530       5    5            110  860       220  220
Venus Williams        100  180 2000  500     1500       0  450            800  220               
Vera Zvonareva        900  280  120  120     1050    1000   80            200                    
Ana Ivanovic          160 2000  180  120      210     700   80            200            120    2
Victoria Azarenka     280  280  180  180              450 1000                 120       390     
Svetlana Kuznetsova   500  900  280  180      210       5  450              1  120       220  600
Nadia Petrova         280  180  500  180      210       0   80                                390
Agnieszka Radwanska     5  280  500  280      370     250  140              1  120            220
Caroline Wozniacki    160  180  180  280              250  250                 120               
Flavia Pennetta       160  280  120  500              140   80                            70  120


Projection for Madrid (Premier Mandatory, May 9):

Best of 14 (with two empty places for Madrid and Rome)
8052 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Serena Williams
7891 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Dinara Safina (+ Stuttgart)
7043 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Venus Williams
6910 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Jelena Jankovic (+ Stuttgart)
6571 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Elena Dementieva (+ Stuttgart)
5890 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Vera Zvonareva



Projection for Week before Roland Garros (DRAW relevant):

Best of 13 (with three empty places for Madrid, Rome and one other claycourts extra)
7832 Serena Williams
7681 Dinara Safina
6822 Venus Williams
6291 Elena Dementieva
6050 Jelena Jankovic
5640 Vera Zvonareva



Projection for Week before Wimbledon (DRAW relevant):

Best of 12 (with four empty places for Madrid, Rome, RG and one other clay/grass extra event)
7652 Serena Williams
6642 Venus Williams
6281 Dinara Safina
5791 Elena Dementieva
5360 Vera Zvonareva
5150 Jelena Jankovic



Projection for Week AFTER Wimbledon (end of 1s half of the season):

Best of 11 (with five empty places for Madrid, Rome, RG, Wimbledon and one other clay/grass extra event)
6252 Serena Williams
6101 Dinara Safina
5240 Vera Zvonareva
4891 Elena Dementieva
4870 Jelena Jankovic
4642 Venus Williams

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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Previous Season (2008) Summary




#1 Changes:
till may 18 - Justine Henin (20 weeks)
May 19 / Jun 8 - Maria Sharapova (3 weeks)
Jun 9 / Aug 10 - Ana Ivanovic (9 weeks)
Aug 11 / Aug 17 - Jelena Jankovic (1 weeks)
Aug 18 / Sep 7 - Ana Ivanovic (3 weeks)
Sep 8 / Oct 5 - Serena Williams (4 weeks)
Since Oct 6 - Jelena Jankovic (12 weeks)


2008 Season Highest Ranking
#1 - Justine Henin (1)
#1 - Maria Sharapova (1)
#1 - Ana Ivanovic (1)
#1 - Jelena Jankovic (1)
#1 - Serena Williams (1)
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#2 - Svetlana Kuznetsova (2)
#2 - Dinara Safina (2)
#4 - Elena Dementieva (4)
#6 - Venus Williams (1)
#6 - Anna Chakvetadze (5)
#7 - Vera Zvonareva (7)
#8 - Daniela Hantuchova (5)
#9 - Agnieszka Radwanska (9)
#9 - Marion Bartoli (9)



2008 Season End Ranking:
1. Jelena Jankovic SRB.................. 4710 #
2. Serena Williams USA.................. 3866 #
3. Dinara Safina RUS.................... 3817
4. Elena Dementieva RUS................. 3663
5. Ana Ivanovic SRB..................... 3457 #
6. Venus Williams USA................... 3272
7. Vera Zvonareva RUS................... 2952
8. Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS.............. 2726
9. Maria Sharapova RUS.................. 2515 #
10. Agnieszka Radwanska POL............. 2286
11. Nadia Petrova RUS................... 1976
12. Caroline Wozniacki DEN.............. 1678
13. Flavia Pennetta ITA................. 1670
14. Patty Schnyder SUI.................. 1590
15. Victoria Azarenka BLR............... 1494
16. Alize Cornet FRA.................... 1492
17. Marion Bartoli FRA.................. 1410
18. Anna Chakvetadze RUS................ 1363
19. Dominika Cibulkova SVK.............. 1337
20. Katarina Srebotnik SLO.............. 1272




Grand Slam Finals:
Australian Open: Maria Sharapova d. Ana Ivanovic 7-5 6-3
Roland Garros: Ana Ivanovic d. Dinara Safina 6-4 6-3
Wimbledon: Venus Williams d. Serena Williams 7-5 6-4
US Open: Serena Williams d. Jelena Jannkovic 6-4 7-5

(OTHER BIG TITLES: Olympics-Dementieva, YEC-Venus, Miami-Serena)

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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you forgot Wozniacki in the "race" for top10.


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Maybe I'm blind or dumb, but I thought Aga isn't playing in Charleston?

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I thought Vee could get #3 in Charleston this week?
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you are right. There's something wrong with Dementieva's points. She has too many


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I thought Vee could get #3 in Charleston this week?
That's what I thought too. Lena has 390 pts to defend this week, Venus has 0. If Venus wins the title she is #3, I believe.

I think Cp6uja added 220 pts to Lena's ranking by mistake.
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That's what I thought too. Lena has 390 pts to defend this week, Venus has 0. If Venus wins the title she is #3, I believe.

I think Cp6uja added 220 pts to Lena's ranking by mistake.
As far as I know Elena will lose this week 390 - 220 (16th best tournament) = 170 points in case of a loss before semis

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I very hurry when i open this thread today so instead use my own calculations for basis i just use TBE Ranking thread and not notice that he already added 16th best results to all players (which is correct from today's rankings point of view). And also I switch Wozniacki and Radwanska cases (Caro is only player which has some chances to reach TOP10 this week winning Charleston, not Aga).

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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You defend as many points as you earned 52 weeks ago.

Lena defends 390 pts. If she makes final she will earn 320 pts and have 7491 pts in the rankings. I don't know where Cp6uja got 7711 pts from.

Oh, I see now.
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Projection for Madrid (Premier Mandatory, May 9):

Best of 14 (with two empty places for Madrid and Rome)
8052 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Serena Williams
7891 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Dinara Safina (+ Stuttgart)
7042 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Venus Williams (+ Charleston)
6910 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Jelena Jankovic (+ Stuttgart)
6571 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Elena Dementieva (+ Charleston and Stuttgart)
5890 pts + Madrid/09 and Rome/09 - Vera Zvonareva (+ Stuttgart)



Projection for Week before Roland Garros (DRAW relevant):

Best of 13 (with three empty places for Madrid, Rome and one other claycourts extra)
7832 Serena Williams
7681 Dinara Safina
6822 Venus Williams
6291 Elena Dementieva
6050 Jelena Jankovic
5640 Vera Zvonareva



Projection for Week before Wimbledon (DRAW relevant):

Best of 12 (with four empty places for Madrid, Rome, RG and one other clay/grass extra event)
7652 Serena Williams
6642 Venus Williams
6281 Dinara Safina
5791 Elena Dementieva
5360 Vera Zvonareva
5150 Jelena Jankovic



Projection for Week AFTER Wimbledon (end of 1s half of the season):

Best of 11 (with five empty places for Madrid, Rome, RG, Wimbledon and one other clay/grass extra event)
6252 Serena Williams
6101 Dinara Safina
5240 Vera Zvonareva
4891 Elena Dementieva
4870 Jelena Jankovic
4642 Venus Williams

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Thanks for thread and work. Very interesting.

One correction: Venus has only played four tournaments this year (Aus Open, Dubai, Acapulco, and Miami), so her divisor for average points per tournament should be four not five.
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Thanks for thread and work. Very interesting.

One correction: Venus has only played four tournaments this year (Aus Open, Dubai, Acapulco, and Miami), so her divisor for average points per tournament should be four not five.
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