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Is the draw truly random?

I see again Venus and Serena are on the same side of the draw. I am one who once believed in the randomness of the draw. But now I wonder, Venus and Serena seem to end up on the same side more and more. Is it just me?

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Re: Is the draw truly random?

I wonder too....

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Re: Is the draw truly random?

they keep making the draw over and over until the desired draw is reached!

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Re: Is the draw truly random?

When they are on the same half of the draw, WS fans complain that the draw is fixed
When they are on different sides of the draw, WS haters complain that the draw is fixed

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Re: Is the draw truly random?


why can't you guyz get over it?

the only situation where the sister MUST be in each half is both of them are seeded 1st and 2nd.
if not, get over it.

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they keep making the draw over and over until the desired draw is reached!
I read that at Miami if the Sisters are on opposite sides of the draw there is a 95 percent probability a williams will be in the finals. Wonder if this is payback?

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When they are on the same half of the draw, WS fans complain that the draw is fixed
When they are on different sides of the draw, WS haters complain that the draw is fixed
Statistics warrant fifty fifty. While I do realize there can be streaks of both same and different sides, I will be watching.

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Statistics warrant fifty fifty. While I do realize there can be streaks of both same and different sides, I will be watching.
This isn't about stats, it's about probability. With your take (which makes it seem as if there's a separate draw for the WS) on each pick there's a 1-in-2 chance (50-50) of either thing happening. That doesn't mean that if you pick 10 times, 5 will be 1 way and the other 5 the other way. It means that on each pick there's 2 possible outcomes. It's even possible to get all 10 picks having the same outcome.
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Re: Is the draw truly random?

Of course not.
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Re: Is the draw truly random?

I can't help noticing that the #1 seed is always at the top of the draw. That doesn't seem so random to me. IT'S ALL A BIG CONSPIRACY

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I can't help noticing that the #1 seed is always at the top of the draw. That doesn't seem so random to me. IT'S ALL A BIG CONSPIRACY
I can't help noticing that the 32 seeds in IW and Miami always enjoy a bye @ 1st round. THIS IS A CONSPIRACY. Brie whitehead should be inserted into the draw for fairness.

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Re: Is the draw truly random?

This is just like asking whether the outcome of a Williams vs Williams match whether it's fixed by themselves/family decision or not.
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Don't get me started on that. How they get away with making Bye play 32 matches in the 1st round is beyond me. No wonder she never seems to be able to win a match.

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I see again Venus and Serena are on the same side of the draw. I am one who once believed in the randomness of the draw. But now I wonder, Venus and Serena seem to end up on the same side more and more. Is it just me?
Here we go again. The bottom line for these tournaments and tv viewing is MONEY, Bottom line, The Williams sisters put more people in their seats and bring in more television viewers then any other female tennis player, That's why I believe the draws are fair, they meet in the semis , no big tragedy. But believe me . the sponsers would love an all Williams final, more bang for their buck.
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