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There was a cute interview were Dementieva said how to mispronounce her name in French and English, and how to say it right in Russian. She said she didn't really care how you said it.
Do you have a link to that interview?

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On the subject of pronunciation, how do you pronounce Cetkovska?
tset-kov-ska

In Slavic languages 'c' (without any diacritical signs to which you must pay all the attention as they make different letters with different pronunciation) is never pronounced hard, as 'k', even when followed by 'k'. The only exceptions to this rule are foreign names and foreign words that retain their original spelling.

The pronunciation is approximately 'ts' (try to make a single consonant). For example, Čech name Moravec is pronounced approximately 'moravets'.

Here is a useful brief introduction into Čech pronunciation:

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/czech.htm

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Hilarious is when Greg Rusedski says Jankovic
He doesn't say YANK-O-VIC
Instead he really pronounces the J: JANK-O-VIC

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Anyone remember the post someone made about the Pronunciation of Safina?

Dinara wanted it pronounced Saf - IN - UH not SAF-E - NA

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Does anyone else find that Martina Navratilova has a problem with pronouncing Lucie Safarova's surname?

I mean how hard is it to pronounce SAFAROVA.

She mumbles Shaf aj a va or something.
It seems to be different every time.

silly woman.

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Does anyone else find that Martina Navratilova has a problem with pronouncing Lucie Safarova's surname?

I mean how hard is it to pronounce SAFAROVA.

She mumbles Shaf aj a va or something.
It seems to be different every time.

silly woman.

They're both Czech, so maybe Martina is pronouncing it correctly

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Does anyone else find that Martina Navratilova has a problem with pronouncing Lucie Safarova's surname?

I mean how hard is it to pronounce SAFAROVA.

She mumbles Shaf aj a va or something.
It seems to be different every time.

silly woman.
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They're both Czech, so maybe Martina is pronouncing it correctly
I'm sure she is saying it properly.

Safarova is definitely NOT pronounced the way it looks in English
Apart from anything, her name is Šafářová, and I'm pretty sure that Š is a lot more like "sh" in English than "s". However, maybe someone who speaks Czech could enlighten us.

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The y represents a vowel in Russian that doesn't exist in English, soooo it's kind of somewhere between the u in "put" and the i in "bit."

The name is pronounced like MY-skee-nuh. They say it at about 2:05 here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKIZsn4G46s
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Anyone remember the post someone made about the Pronunciation of Safina?

Dinara wanted it pronounced Saf - IN - UH not SAF-E - NA
Дина́ра Миха́йловна (Муби́новна) Са́фина

The accent mark indicates which syllable is stressed. So in her last name 'Sa' is stressed, not 'fi'.
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Regarding Dinara Safina:
Up until the AO 2009, I'd always heard announcers pronounce her last name as Sa-FEE-na, and during the AO 2009, she pronounced it that way herself (at the beginning of the ESPN broadcast of the final, they show a video of her talking to the camera saying, "I'm Dinara Sa-FEE-na"). But the ESPN announcers during AO 2009 called her SA-fina, which I guess is more correct since it's the female version of Safin, which is pronounced SA-fin. I think the MC of the trophy ceremony called her Sa-FEE-na.

Regarding Elena Dementieva:
For years Americans called her De-men-tee-AY-va, while British announcers called her De-MEN-tya-va. I suspect the actual Russian pronunciation is closer to the latter. Recently I've heard American announcers adopting the latter pronunciation. But I've occasionally heard British announcers use the former. I thought I once heard Elena herself use the former pronunciation, but that may have been for the benefit of an American audience.

Regarding Maria Sharapova:
Most English speakers call her Shar-a-PO-va, but Bud Collins always calls her Shar-A-pova, which sounds like something from the Cold War days (it reminds me of the Soviet athletes from the 70's and 80's that Americans were trained to fear/hate/whatever). I suspect that neither pronunciation is correct. I think the correct pronunciation in Russian is closer to SHAR-a-pova, since that's closer to the male version of the name SHAR-a-pov. But SHAR-a-pova sounds totally weird to English speakers, so it's not used. I think Maria herself says Shar-a-PO-va like most English speakers.

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Seles is sell-ess right?

Ive heard it pronounced suh-less

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I'm sure she is saying it properly.

Safarova is definitely NOT pronounced the way it looks in English
Apart from anything, her name is Šafářová, and I'm pretty sure that Š is a lot more like "sh" in English than "s". However, maybe someone who speaks Czech could enlighten us.
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I'm sure she is saying it properly.

Safarova is definitely NOT pronounced the way it looks in English
Apart from anything, her name is Šafářová, and I'm pretty sure that Š is a lot more like "sh" in English than "s". However, maybe someone who speaks Czech could enlighten us.
Exactly right. 'Š' like hard English 'sh', and 'ř' requires special attention! See the introduction to Čech pronunciation I gave a link to a few posts up.
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