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Will 5-Time Champs Roger & Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite their rankings?

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At the All England Club, they have reserved the right to seed players however they want, because grass is such a special surface and is only played mostly in one month out of the year.

Venus got a boost in her seeding in 2007, but it wasn't much; and she won the whole tournament. 2008, Wimbledon went according to the rankings, and Venus was seeded 7th, and she still won.

Now 2-time defending and 5-time Wimbledon Champion(the most decorated grass court player of this generation) has a chance to repeat. Do she deserve to be seeded
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As for Roger, he has been in the last 6 Slam finals at SW-19, winning five of them(IN A ROW!!). The shock loss last year to now #1 Nadal was a blow to his plan of passing Bjorn Borg's 5 in-a-row. Roger, being the clear dominate force on grass, will he maintain his #1 seeding?








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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

Maybe number 2, after Serena. Considering how great a grasscourter Serena is too...
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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

no, and i don't think they should move her up.
that made sense when she was ranked very low but i don't like when seeds don't correspond to the rankings.

i'd like for her to be seeded 2 if Serena's seeded 1 though.

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

Nadal has never been seeded 1 at FO where he's never lost a match

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

Venus will win FO and some other events and then be #1 ranked just after French Open and then she'll be #1 seed.
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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

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Nadal has never been seeded 1 at FO where he's never lost a match
RG never changes the seeds they base them on rankings, yet Wimbledon does at times

anyway no she won't, i think they will follow the rankings (i believe/hope she be very inside the top 5 till then so don't think they will)

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

She'll be seeded #2 and there's no excuse she shouldnt be.

No way she should be seeded #1 unless she wins RG and a couple of other titles beforehand (which I think is VERY unlikely). You can't put someone ahead of a player who is holding 2 slam titles and reached the Wimby final last year.

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

No but the All England Lawn & Tennis Club should seed her number 2 only if Serena is still number 1. If Serena is not number 1, Venus should remain at her WTA ranking if she is above 5 or 6.

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If she is in the top 4 it is very likely she will be seeded 2 if serena is 1, there is no way they can bump her ahead of serena.

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At the All England Club, they have reserved the right to seed players however they want, because grass is such a special surface and is only played mostly in one month out of the year.
Forget the 'because'. They're the all England Club and they do whatever they want.
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Venus got a boost in her seeding in 2007, but it wasn't much; and she won the whole tournament. 2008, Wimbledon went according to the rankings, and Venus was seeded 7th, and she still won.

Now 2-time defending and 5-time Wimbledon Champion(the most decorated grass court player of this generation) has a chance to repeat. Do she deserve to be seeded NUMERO UNO?
No.

If she's #3, They might move her up to #2. And if she's #5, I expect to see her moved up to #4. This is, essentially, what they did with Steffi Graf and Lindsay Davenport in ... dang. What year in the late 90's was that?

Anyway, I can see a one spot move happening, if it gets her to a higher 'level'. #9 to #8, #5 to #4, #3 to #2. But they didn't move her last year, so I don't expect a #7 to #4, #5 to #2 kind of move.

Anyway, I'm way more interested in where Mauresmo and Sharapova get seeded. Sharapova may not even be seeded on her ranking, if she doesn't play, and do well at, Indiam Wells.

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

I think when they do change the seedings, they only base it on the last couple of years anyway, so the fact she won it 5 times is not relevant as some of them were a long time ago.

I think if she is going to be bumped up, it should be at least top 4.
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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

So even though she is 2-time defending champion, she should still be #2 or lower? Even though she took out Serena last year?

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

#2 seed. Her only ranking can only go up from its current #5. She will probably be #4 after RG. Wimbledon will want to serve its best interests and bump Venus to 2.

It was not necessary to bump Venus last year since they were both in the same interval [5-8] and a SF was the earliest possible meeting.
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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

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If she is in the top 4 it is very likely she will be seeded 2 if serena is 1, there is no way they can bump her ahead of serena.
I agree. It's not simply about numbers. It's about the draw and the possibility of match ups between players. There are many factors at play, so it's too early to predict what's going to happen.

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Re: Will Venus Be seeded #1 at Wimbledon despite her possible Non-#1 ranking?

Doesn't matter where she is seeded. Venus has proved that at Wimbledon at least, rank is irrelevant. I hope that she will have moved into the top four by then at least though, so that she and Serena won't have be able to meet at least until the semis.

BTW, the one time she was seeded #1, she lost.
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