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Why did careers of Vaidisova, Paszek, Szavay, Mirza, Safarova, Golovin all collapse?

Two years ago no one would have surpised if all 6 of these once-promising young players would be members of today's Top 10. It's like a divine conspiracy.
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Re: Why did careers of Vaidisova, Paszek, Szavay, Mirza, Safarova, Golovin all collap

There is not one reason. There are six different individual reasons for six different individual players.

It should also be mentioned that a) they are not the 1st ever young players to slump badly after good starts to the careers and they won't be the last either and b)some of the these players aren't done yet and have the best part of the careers ahead of them. As to predicting which of these players are finished and which aren't I can't do that. Each of these players fate still lies in their own hands, with the possible exception of Tatiana whose fate still depends on how well she can heal from her injuries.

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Re: Why did careers of Vaidisova, Paszek, Szavay, Mirza, Safarova, Golovin all collap

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Two years ago no one would have surprised if all 6 of these once-promising young players would be members of today's Top 10. It's like a divine conspiracy.
Maybe they're not in top 10 due to the weight of the professional circuit --- fame, commitments, money, schedule --- which can get to some people more than others.

Add Hantuchova to the list also.
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Two years ago no one would have surpised if all 6 of these once-promising young players would be members of today's Top 10. It's like a divine conspiracy.
If you asked me in 2007, I'd have said I'd be shocked of all six of those players were in the top ten.


Venus, Serena, Sharapova, Henin, Mauresmo had all won slams within the previous 18 months. We certainly didn't know Henin was going to retire, or Kim Clijsters or that Myskina wouldn't return.


And back then, we thought the 'Russian wave' was going to mean a lot of slam wins, not just a lot of players in the top twenty.


As for what happened to them, some combination of not enough talent, not enough skill, and not enough health. None of them never were as good as any of the current active multi-slam winners are right now. (I'm ot counting Davenport. I am counting Mauresmo.) But this is normal. Promising young players usually DON'T win slams. Mostly they don't get to the top ten. And if they do, it's later in their careers.


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Vaidisova is not surprising. She was just a bad looking ball machine. Svazay is just bad looking in general.

Mirza and Safarova have hope (i dunno what is wrong with safarova). Paszek is still young (burned out?) Golovin is too sexually charged. All that sex is gonna wreck her movement and ball toss. I dunno how she got the ankle injury, but i'm sure it's related to sex again....
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Vaidisova is not surprising. She was just a bad looking ball machine. Svazay is just bad looking in general.

Mirza and Safarova have hope (i dunno what is wrong with safarova). Paszek is still young (burned out?) Golovin is too sexually charged. All that sex is gonna wreck her movement and ball toss. I dunno how she got the ankle injury, but i'm sure it's related to sex again....
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Nicole is probably the only real top 10 type talent. But she's made some money and maybe isn't motivated enough.

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Add Hantuchova to the list also.

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absolutely do NOT add Hantuchova, who is a marginal talent from an earlier generation, and it was clear already many years before that she lacked both the mobility and mental toughness to become a great player. But add maybe Peer who many expected more from.
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the only collapse is Vaidisova, but she's young, there's still hope.

Tati is always injured.

Sania has been injured too, but she's coming back, and i love her but i'm not sure she'll do that much damage. I'd be satisfied with a top 20 appearance and some titles.

Safarova has a lot of potential.

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Tati is all about her injury

now Nicole , Pazsek and Lucie is all a MESS

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Nicole is probably the only real top 10 type talent. But she's made some money and maybe isn't motivated enough.

how much Nicole made, maybe 2 million? She could have been the next 50 million dollar WTA superstar.
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Re: Why did careers of Vaidisova, Paszek, Szavay, Mirza, Safarova, Golovin all collap

Nicole - She seems to have lost all her motivation. All that publicity and money seems to have addled her passion for tennis

Pazek- She is still 18, she has a good chance of coming back and doing better. Hopefully she will.

Golovin - Same problem as Nicole, too much publicity, lack of motivation

Mirza - She never had a lot of potential to begin with. Just a ball bashing forehand and extreme hype. She had three lucky wins over the top 10 in the span of 4 years (Hingis on her comeback and off-form sveta), and a mickey-mouse title in her home country.

Safarova/Szavay - One season wonders?
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how much Nicole made, maybe 2 million? She could have been the next 50 million dollar WTA superstar.
There's a lot of work, and a lot of aches and pains to get that extra money.
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I think Vaidisova is vastly overrated and Golovin is too but only in this forum. I didn't think Mirza, Paszek, Safarova or Szavay were top 10 fixtures anyway.

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Paszek and Mirza in top-10?

You've got to be kidding...
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