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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old Feb 22nd, 2009, 01:51 PM Thread Starter
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Appeal Sanctions by Dubai?

Based on excerpt from the GULF NEWS below, Dubai Women's Tournament has not yet decided whether to accept the WTA contract conditions for continuing the tournament and may appeal. The article does not mention the other new contract terms (wild card for Peer next year, donation of $248K from the $300K fine to the charity of Peer's choice, $2M performance bond by July, and 8 week deadline to approve Israeli players' visas) so it's not clear if those are being considered for appeal also.

It is also not clear to which entity Dubai would appeal, presumably a WTA arbitration board. Does anybody know?

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WTA lobbed a $300,000 fine on the organisers of the Dubai tournament.

By Leslie Wilson Jr, Sports Editor and Abbas Al Lawati, Staff Reporter
Published: February 21, 2009, 23:06

Dubai studies response to WTA penalty

DUBAI: Organisers of the Dubai Duty Free Open Championships will decide in the next few days on whether to appeal a $300,000 fine by the governing body of women's tennis (WTA), officials said on Saturday.

The fine came after Israeli tennis player Shahar Peer was barred from taking part in the tournament Ė which Venus Williams won last night - because she was not issued a visa for the UAE.

"There is an appeal situation if we want to use it, in the WTA rule book, but we have not gone into detail on it," Colm McLoughlin, managing director of tournament owners and organisers Dubai Duty Free, told reporters on Saturday. "I recognise the WTA have an issue with their rules. We are looking at it [the fine] and will respond in a few days."
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Well if they don't want to agree, no one is forcing then. They can give do without the tournament. Simple really.
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You forgot to place the url (link) for this article. No discussion on my part is possible without it. The poll is strange. Why would you ask tennis forum users what Dubai would do?
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You forgot to place the url (link) for this article. No discussion on my part is possible without it.
Please, for the love of God, don't post the link.

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Couldn't you put that in the main thread?

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You forgot to place the url (link) for this article. No discussion on my part is possible without it. The poll is strange. Why would you ask tennis forum users what Dubai would do?
Sorry, here's the url. http://archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/.../10288407.html.

Poll is posters' opinions of what Dubai is likely to do, not what it should do.
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By Leslie Wilson Jr, Sports Editor and Abbas Al Lawati, Staff Reporter
Published: February 21, 2009, 23:06


Dubai: Organisers of the Dubai Duty Free Open Championships will decide in the next few days on whether to appeal a $300,000 fine by the governing body of women's tennis (WTA), officials said on Saturday.

The fine came after Israeli tennis player Shahar Peer was barred from taking part in the tournament Ė which Venus Williams won last night - because she was not issued a visa for the UAE.

"There is an appeal situation if we want to use it, in the WTA rule book, but we have not gone into detail on it," Colm McLoughlin, managing director of tournament owners and organisers Dubai Duty Free, told reporters on Saturday. "I recognise the WTA have an issue with their rules. We are looking at it [the fine] and will respond in a few days."

Tournament director Salah Tahlak denied that any errors of judgement had been made, as claimed by a section of the players and the media. Commenting on his statement on Tuesday that Peer's visa had been denied for security reasons, he said: "Whatever reason was given last week, we had our reasons. Maybe then it was still fresh what happened in Gaza and we made that very clear in the statement."

He also said that the organisers and the authorities had done their best under the circumstances. "It is not our responsibility to issue a visa. It is other departments' responsibility. They also did their best. We should not mix politics with sport. We are purely sport. We have done a lot for tennis in the region, especially in the UAE," Tahlak told reporters.

McLoughlin also echoed Tahlak's concerns. "Neither Dubai Duty Free nor the tournament issues visas. We request them. It is the immigration authorities and sometimes the security people who make the decisions," he said.

The UAE has no diplomatic ties with Israel and denies entry to its citizens. Israeli doubles specialist Andy Ram was given a special permit to compete in this week's men's tournament in Dubai, ensuring the event goes ahead as planned.

Shir Hever, an Israeli economist at the joint Palestinian-Israeli Alternative Information Centre in Israel, told Gulf News that boycotts of Israel can be effective in raising awareness, but that it was important to distinguish between boycotting individuals and institutions. "Israel as a state should not be invited to participate in international competitions, and Israelis must realise that as long as their government continues to ignore its international law obligations, Israel will not be accepted as a legitimate member of the international community," he said.

"Clearly Shahar Peer was not personally accused of committing any crime. However, in these cases one should ask Ė are tennis players from Gaza able to participate in international events? Unfortunately, the answer is no. Israel traps the people of Gaza in prison-like conditions, and they cannot participate in any international cultural events," he said.

According to media reports, Shahar Peer completed her mandatory military service in the Israel Defence Forces in October 2007, having enjoyed elementary combat training and excelling in rifle marksmanship. She even faced protests at one of her matches in New Zealand following Israel's war on Gaza, which killed 1,300 people.

Emirati political scientist Dr Ebtisam Al Kitby said: "We like all other countries have laws that have to be followed. This is true for Israel too, as I can't imagine it extending the same opportunities for a Palestinian sportsperson. If the tables had turned and Israel had banned entry to a Palestinian tennis player, I doubt that the Women's Tennis Association would have stood by the Palestinian".

http://archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/.../10288407.html
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The article answers your question, laws must be respected.

Launching an anti-Dubai-media campaign is wrong when the media was not provided with any agreement the WTA may have with the UAE state. Because of this wrongful anti-Dubai-media campaign the UAE created a special permit as a defence, in my educated opinion. Israeli passports are being used as political media smear tools. I recall Israel's "brand name" is the lowest amoungst countries, which was voted by people of the world. I don't have the list but would like to know where the United Arab Emirates are ranked.
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[QUOTE=OC521;15065449] the media was not provided with any agreement the WTA may have with the UAE state. /[quote]

Yes they were. Dubai had to agree to allow all otherwise-eligible players in to compete as a condition for being granted a tournament.

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I recall Israel's "brand name" is the lowest amoungst countries, which was voted by people of the world.
Totally irrelevant in the context of this argument.

So much for your educated opinion.

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[quote=griffin;15065520][quote=OC521;15065449] the media was not provided with any agreement the WTA may have with the UAE state. /
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Yes they were. Dubai had to agree to allow all otherwise-eligible players in to compete as a condition for being granted a tournament.



Totally irrelevant in the context of this argument.

So much for your educated opinion.

As for "We like all other countries have laws that have to be followed. This is true for Israel too, as I can't imagine it extending the same opportunities for a Palestinian sportsperson...." - to my knowledge, Israel has never denied access to Palestinian athletes wishing to enter athletic competitions.

Athletes/teams from muslim countries have certainly forfeited matches rather than enter Israel to compete - but not because the Israelis denied them entrance.
You're completely wrong to say the least. Israel constantly denies Palestinian atheletes in the West Bank and Gaza visas so they can leave Israel to compete elsewhere. Hell, they denied visas for fullbright scholars and others who received scholarships in the US. (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...238&sec=sports, one of many examples)
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I found the ranking for Israel. UAE was not surveyed.

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Survey: Israel worst brand name in the world


Global Research, November 24, 2006
Israel Today - 2006-11-22

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=3960


As if Israelís position in the world in not bad enough, a new survey published in the US Wednesday says that Israel is suffering from the worst public image among all countries of the world.

The study, called the National Brands Index, conducted by government advisor Simon Anholt and powered by global market intelligence solutions provider GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.), shows that Israel is at the bottom of the list by a considerable margin in the publicís perception of its image.

The Index surveyed 25,903 online consumers across 35 countries about their perceptions of those countries across six areas of national competence: Investment and Immigration, Exports, Culture and Heritage, People, Governance and Tourism. The NBI is the first analytical ranking of the world's nation brands.

"Israel's brand is by a considerable margin the most negative we have ever measured in the NBI, and comes at the bottom of the ranking on almost every question," states report author Simon Anholt.

Anholt believes that the politics of a nation can affect every single aspect of a person's perception about a country. In the light of the recent announcement that the Israeli Foreign Ministry has taken upon itself to re-brand Israel, Anholt comments that to succeed in permanently changing the country's image, the country has to be prepared to change its behavior. He reiterates his strong belief that a reputation cannot be constructed: it has to be earned.

"If Israel's intention is to promote itself as a desirable place to live and invest in, the challenge appears to be a steep one," Anholt concluded.

The survey also indicated that Israel came last in each area by a long margin, including the fact that of the 36 countries ranked, there is nowhere that respondents would like to visit less than Israel. Worse yet, the survey indicates that Israelís people were also voted the most unwelcoming in the world.

And there was one more unpleasant surprise: Whoever thought that the United States is Israelís best friend and Israel is loved in the US, the index indicated that Americans ranked Israel just slightly above China in terms of its conduct in the areas of international peace and security.

The 35 countries polled for the study were: Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Egypt, Estonia, France, Germany, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, UK, and the USA.


Original article at Israel Today, an Israeli publication.
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default...=178&nid=10395
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" [QUOTE=griffin;15065520][QUOTE=OC521;15065449] the media was not provided with any agreement the WTA may have with the UAE state. /
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Yes they were. Dubai had to agree to allow all otherwise-eligible players in to compete as a condition for being granted a tournament.



Totally irrelevant in the context of this argument.

So much for your educated opinion.

As for "We like all other countries have laws that have to be followed. This is true for Israel too, as I can't imagine it extending the same opportunities for a Palestinian sportsperson...." - to my knowledge, Israel has never denied access to Palestinian athletes wishing to enter athletic competitions.

Athletes/teams from muslim countries have certainly forfeited matches rather than enter Israel to compete - but not because the Israelis denied them entrance.

My response:
You have mistaken Dubai for United Arab Emirates (UAE). If CNN had a copy of a WTA agreement with the UAE I'm sure there would have been quotes in their online news stories or highlights in their news broadcast if it was done in Atlanta headquarters. That's my observed opinion of CNN news since 1991.

So much for my educated opinion, eh?
If the U.S. decided to reduce their multi-billion dollar defence budget in exchange for equal health care through out all 50 united states then Israel would politically collapse.
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I found the ranking for Israel. UAE was not surveyed.
There was a poll in many countries as of late of which country is the most popular one. Germany ranked #1

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[QUOTE=griffin;15065520][QUOTE=OC521;15065449] the media was not provided with any agreement the WTA may have with the UAE state. /
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Yes they were. Dubai had to agree to allow all otherwise-eligible players in to compete as a condition for being granted a tournament.



Totally irrelevant in the context of this argument.

So much for your educated opinion.

As for "We like all other countries have laws that have to be followed. This is true for Israel too, as I can't imagine it extending the same opportunities for a Palestinian sportsperson...." - to my knowledge, Israel has never denied access to Palestinian athletes wishing to enter athletic competitions.

Athletes/teams from muslim countries have certainly forfeited matches rather than enter Israel to compete - but not because the Israelis denied them entrance.

Palestinian football team was denied a visas for entry to Israel last year ,..."question of security" they said .
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SURVEY : ISRAEL WORST BRAND NAME ..

"If Israel's intention is to promote itself as a desirable place to live and invest in, the challenge appears to be a steep one," Anholt concluded.

The survey also indicated that Israel came last in each area by a long margin, including the fact that of the 36 countries ranked, there is nowhere that respondents would like to visit less than Israel. Worse yet, the survey indicates that Israelís people were also voted the most unwelcoming in the world. "



I am not surprised at all lol , who in the earth with a kind of humanity would love to visit this country ?, a country where citizen are also soldiers and dayly kill innocent people in Gaza ....i far more prefer China than this country . I far more prefer visiting Gaza than Israel , unfortunately one cannot enter Gaza without entering Israel it seems .
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What does Israel "brand name" have to do with Dubai ability to follow the rules that they signed up for? Dubai and the UAE in general have gone down in my opinion since this incident, does that mean its "brand name" has been affected too?
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