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Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

This was a role that Lindsay Davenport handled well, as Venus does now. Sometimes, a player has to address the issues, and talk to the suit in various countries, bothing knowing the issues and representing the other athletes. As far as I know, it's not like some kind of elected position. It's something BJK did, but Chris Evert wasn't wild about.

But when Venus isn't the 'go to' person, among the players, on tour issues, who will be? Somebody who's won a couple slams, smart, well-spoken, and willing to spend time talking to sponsors and tour organizers as an equal, not arm candy.

Sharapova obviously has the cred and the popularity, but is reputed to be .... somewhat 'icy' when not in front of the camera. Not really an issue if she can be the 'TV interview Sharapova' for four or five hours at a time, while talking to men who'd rather bang her than listen to her. Ivanovic seems a bit young, none of the current crop is Hingis, Mauresmo seems like a bit of an introvert, Jankovic? Hmmmm ... needs to win some majors, but she's not afraid to speak up. Who does Russian media go to for a quote? Dementieva? Especially after the Olympic win, a good choice. And she provides sound-bites.

You don't ask a teenager to go toe-to-toe with a conference room full of 55 year old investment bankers. That's a job for adults. But tennis players don't spend much time at the top as adults. Which, to be honest, is one of the problems with the tour. By the time the players know what they really need, and what to demand, and what to give up, they're retiring and going after real life. Not many stay involved with the WTA.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

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This was a role that Lindsay Davenport handled well, as Venus does now. Sometimes, a player has to address the issues, and talk to the suit in various countries, bothing knowing the issues and representing the other athletes. As far as I know, it's not like some kind of elected position. It's something BJK did, but Chris Evert wasn't wild about.

But when Venus isn't the 'go to' person, among the players, on tour issues, who will be? Somebody who's won a couple slams, smart, well-spoken, and willing to spend time talking to sponsors and tour organizers as an equal, not arm candy.

Sharapova obviously has the cred and the popularity, but is reputed to be .... somewhat 'icy' when not in front of the camera. Not really an issue if she can be the 'TV interview Sharapova' for four or five hours at a time, while talking to men who'd rather bang her than listen to her. Ivanovic seems a bit young, none of the current crop is Hingis, Mauresmo seems like a bit of an introvert, Jankovic? Hmmmm ... needs to win some majors, but she's not afraid to speak up. Who does Russian media go to for a quote? Dementieva? Especially after the Olympic win, a good choice. And she provides sound-bites.

You don't ask a teenager to go toe-to-toe with a conference room full of 55 year old investment bankers. That's a job for adults. But tennis players don't spend much time at the top as adults. Which, to be honest, is one of the problems with the tour. By the time the players know what they really need, and what to demand, and what to give up, they're retiring and going after real life. Not many stay involved with the WTA.
I can't ever remember her being in that position.
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I can't ever remember her being in that position.
She played in bland times?

Recall it was Davenport who the media went to in 2002, when Indian Wells was coming up, and it was Davenport who made the point that players were independent contractors, and should play where they liked without harassment.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

I don't see Maria doing that.
Radwanska has a big mouth.
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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

court70 must have only got into tennis since September last year because before that (when Lindsay played), Davenport was always known as one of the top representatives for the tour. She was the official one for a couple of years when she was no.1 and was always a link between the players, the media and the sponsors. For someone to say she was never in that position is quite frankly laughable. For a while, she was the only player in that position.
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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

One interesting thing is that after Venus, whoever the media goes to won't be somebody who familiar with the announcers. Davenport played against Shriver and Mary Joe Fernandez. Venus played against Mary Joe Fernandez. More to the point, shared locker rooms and hotels and airplane flights. That level of familiarity will be lost.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

Looking at the current top 20, there is hardly anyone who commands respect AND is well spoken/thoughtful the way Lindsay and Venus are.
Sharapova seems a decent choice, but not optimal- I don't think she is quite on the same level.
Of the younger ones A-Rad seems like a good speaker, confident and comfortable with herself. She also seems well educated and intelligent. If she wins some big titles and is respected among her peers, a few years down the road she could be a very good player's representative.
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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

If Venus were a politician, you could say her tenure was a successful one.
She eloquently spoke about equal prize and it became reality.
Year after year, politely shaming and quietly charming the the mostly men establishment to think about their own daughters future when deliberating.

I would Dementieva could handle, but she can be a bit of a loose canon at times.

I think it would have to be Sharapova. I am confident she can grow in the job with the hope that the concerns expressed here would not be an issue. That could also help her own profile.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

Ideally, you'd get someone who's educated and who understands politicking in a way that most of the players don't. Renae Stubbs would be a good choice. Petrova would do well in the role also.

Jankovic's degree in economics could be useful for a player rep.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

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Ideally, you'd get someone who's educated and who understands politicking in a way that most of the players don't. Renae Stubbs would be a good choice. Petrova would do well in the role also.

Jankovic's degree in economics could be useful for a player rep.
Good point.
I agree with Petrova choice. But she has not won a GS. Not that it required, but it had credibility.

Objectively Renae Stubbs would th best choice, but the fact she has not had good results could be an obstacle.
Seriously, WTA is known for its single, not double players.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

What did lindsay davenport ever do?? lol id honestly like to know. I thought she was a real conservative gal wen she was young
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Ideally, you'd get someone who's educated and who understands politicking in a way that most of the players don't. Renae Stubbs would be a good choice. Petrova would do well in the role also.

Jankovic's degree in economics could be useful for a player rep.
When did she get a degree.
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What did lindsay davenport ever do?? lol id honestly like to know. I thought she was a real conservative gal wen she was young
That's what I would like to know too.
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I don't see Maria doing that.
Radwanska has a big mouth.
Why not Maria?
I think she can do it.
This could make her growp up fast.
Besides she can ask for from people like Tracy Austin, Mary Cariilo.
These 2 are already crazy about her, they would be glad to help. I am sure they would welcome any chance to spend more time with Maria, ti would give them more "exclusives" to talk about during their telecast.

If I am not mistaken, Venus often consulted with BJK, especially on the equal prize issue.
BJK was the one who got the ball rolling during and after her playing time.

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Re: Who's going to be the 'player representative' after Venus?

Sharapova could do it but she is too focused on herself.
There is nobody on the same level of results, class and respect than Venus.

I remeber Golovin giving nice interviews and she is the perfect example of the modern tennis player : born in Russia, raised in France and now living in Miami. Too bad she's half-retired.
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