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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Feb 20th, 2009, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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What's wrong with the WTA?

Throughout the forum there are sometimes negative, but vague, comments about the WTA. If any, what specifically are the problems with the WTA or the way it manages women's professional tennis?

Sometimes I get the impression people think it is too weak, but about what issue? Maybe it's just an impossible job with players, tournaments, other federations, fans, and sponsors to satisfy. ....
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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

The ATP is better in every departement than the WTA.
Even the men tour looks more glamorous.

In defense of the WTA, they don't have much to work with.
Matches are never televised, when they are they are UEs fest.
Half of the tour has no personality whatsoever.
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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

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The ATP is better in every departement than the WTA.
Even the men tour looks more glamorous.

In defense of the WTA, they don't have much to work with.
Matches are never televised, when they are they are UEs fest.
Half of the tour has no personality whatsoever.
Tennis is only high-paid sport on this planet with equal prizes (actually no other even 25%F - 75%M example b/c always M >>>>> F in $$$) and You complain?

Also star-power status (financial, public, commercial, celebrity...) of biggest WTA Stars is >>>>> than "star-power" of all female Beijing 2008 Olympics medalists (single competitions) from all other sports T-O-G-E-T-H-E-R.

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and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

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The ATP is better in every departement than the WTA.
Even the men tour looks more glamorous.

In defense of the WTA, they don't have much to work with.
Matches are never televised, when they are they are UEs fest.
Half of the tour has no personality whatsoever.
What's a "UEs fest?" UnEven contest?

Well, as to glamour on the women's side, there's Azarenka, Dementieva, Dokic, Sharapova, Kirilenko, Ivanovic, Hantuchova, Golovin, Mirza, Dechy, Wozniacki, Williams, Vaidisova, Stosur, Safina, Wozniak, to name the most notable. And for glamour the men have Haas, Safin, Lopez, Verdasco, Hewitt, Bryans and .....?

And the women usually show more leg than the men.

Just kidding with you, Wiggly.
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Tennis is only high-paid sport on this planet with equal prizes (actually no other even 25%F - 75%M example b/c always M >>>>> F in $$$) and You complain?

Also star-power status (financial, public, commercial, celebrity...) of biggest WTA Stars is >>>>> than "star-power" of all female Beijing 2008 Olympics medalists (single competitions) from all other sports T-O-G-E-T-H-E-R.

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Not following the logic here....
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Not following the logic here....
WTA is >>>> (means "WAY BETTER") in terms of success than any other international/national womans sports association/federation from any other sport and that is fact since WTA existing!

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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WTA is >>>> (means "WAY BETTER") in terms of success than any other international/national womans sports association/federation from any other sport and that is fact since WTA existing!
Okay, thanks, now I understand --- you think WTA is doing a very good job.
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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

Depends on what you compare it with.

If you compare it to other woman's sports, like Cp6uja. He's right. WTA is a very succesfull organisation. But that is in my oppinion mostly because TENNIS is very succesful.

If you mostly look at regulation for Woman's tennis. (and compare it to Men's tennis) Like the new rankingsystem(The change of system,'The doubling of 2008 points at start of 2009 season'), The on-court coaching, The irregularity in shotspot(some tournaments use it, some don't, only the big courts have shotspot in tournaments that use it.), The 'challenge' system while using shotspot, The year-round calender and the little they did to improve it, The new top10 regulations. Larry Scott's way of acting regarding Henin's retirement.

i have to go against this organisation and prefer the ATP.(I know the ATP has some of the things i said as well.) It's been way too inconsistent in their way to 'improve' the tour. And i fail to see their logic.

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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

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What's a "UEs fest?" UnEven contest?

Well, as to glamour on the women's side, there's Azarenka, Dementieva, Dokic, Sharapova, Kirilenko, Ivanovic, Hantuchova, Golovin, Mirza, Dechy, Wozniacki, Williams, Vaidisova, Stosur, Safina, Wozniak, to name the most notable. And for glamour the men have Haas, Safin, Lopez, Verdasco, Hewitt, Bryans and .....?

And the women usually show more leg than the men.

Just kidding with you, Wiggly.
Azarenka? (you will be told she is average) Golovin? (don't like her nose.. sorry Slutiana and Slutati) Dechy??? Wozniacki?? Williams??? Stosur is average despite she has beautiful eyes. Wozniak

Haas, Safin, Lopez, Verdasco, Nadal, Tsonga, Simon, Federer, Djokovic, Hewitt (not for me but yeah for some people), Bryans, Clément, Gasquet (same for Hewitt), Wawrinka, Bolleli.. and I surely forgot others.

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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

There's a white male as chairperson and CEO

No Really, there's a group of very passive tennis players who are quite happy for people within the WTA organisation to implement changes without much debate or rancor.

What do the player's want from the tour themselves?
Obviously lots of cash (who doesn't), a legacy (their own place in tennis history), but unlike the past there are no players who want to shape or define the tour that they are apart of (Billie Jean King, Rosie Casals, etc.)

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There's a white male as chairperson and CEO

No Really, there's a group of very passive tennis players who are quite happy for people within the WTA organisation to implement changes without much debate or rancor.

What do the player's want from the tour themselves?
Obviously lots of cash (who doesn't), a legacy (their own place in tennis history), but unlike the past there are no players who want to shape or define the tour that they are apart of (Billie Jean King, Rosie Casals, etc.)
Yes, it is surprising that a man heads the WTA. I think Venus has stepped up to help define the tour. So you are saying that the women on tour are passive and accept whatever the WTA decides? Or maybe they are satisfied with the decisions? I think they have added some input to the schedule...too many events.
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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

well i can say that wta is between fair and very poor.
i'll it is below average. (it is one step way from very poor and two steps away from the worst.)

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Re: What's wrong with the WTA?

its not WTA fault. Its just an unlucky time for the tour since the best player at that time retired, the second best player got injured, the third best player got into a Grand Slump, that made a slamless player finished last year as no. 1 and people went crazy about it. The WS still around but still on and off. Plus too many russians.
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Depends on what you compare it with.

If you compare it to other woman's sports, like Cp6uja. He's right. WTA is a very succesfull organisation. But that is in my oppinion mostly because TENNIS is very succesful.

If you mostly look at regulation for Woman's tennis. (and compare it to Men's tennis) Like the new ranking system(The change of system,'The doubling of 2008 points at start of 2009 season'), The on-court coaching, the irregularity in shotspot(some tournaments use it, some don't, only the big courts have shotspot in tournaments that use it.), The 'challenge' system while using shotspot, The year-round calender and the little they did to improve it, The new top 10 regulations. Larry Scott's way of acting regarding Henin's retirement.

i have to go against this organisation and prefer the ATP.(I know the ATP has some of the things i said as well.) It's been way too inconsistent in their way to 'improve' the tour. And i fail to see their logic.
I'm not familiar with the "new top 10 regulations" or Larry's Scott's reaction to Henin's retirement. Could you explain?

I don't think the WTA can control the use of Shotspot, because the cost is covered by individual tournaments. It's expensive technology and some tourneys' budgets can't handle it.

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