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JG: Yes - if I hit drop shots during a match my coach (Chris Johnston) makes me do sit-ups afterwards as 'punishment'... 50 sit-ups for each one. Since I was a kid it was my favorite shot to hit, but I would do it at inappropriate times like second serve returns on match point down. So when he saw me do it the first time he said, 'Nup, you've gotta do sit-ups for that'. He makes me do it even if I win the point so now my first reaction when I hit a drop shot is to say sorry! But he's actually really nice. At least he doesn't make me do it for double faults.
quoted from the latest "getting to know....Jarmila Gajdosova"

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I noticed that and found it bizarre to be honest. It's a smart way of breaking a habit, but I think it would be more appropriate to punish her only if she plays a drop shot from behind the baseline, or down break point.

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Lucky Niculescu's coach doesn't do the same, or she'd be the bulkiest woman on the tour!
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Lucky Niculescu's coach doesn't do the same, or she'd be the bulkiest woman on the tour!

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If someone plays a Dropshot too often it´s not a bad idea I guess

If the coach of Jürgen Melzer would use this training method -
of course instead of Sit-Ups something like 24-hours-sex-forbiddance for every dropshot played


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That's bright, I was doing the same with my cousins, everytime they would fart or cuss when I would be around they would make push-ups or sit-ups

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i just don't understand why fight a natural habit, instead of improve it. oprandi made alot of noise in her short career using it. of course she was a much competer player on clay, but hay - Jarmila would only profit from a djokovic-like drop shot that works on hard courts as well...

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intrested in what you guys think about this - i personally admire the coach's aspiration to create as single-dimensional players as possible.
He chose the easy way out. Gajdosova tends to hit dropshots at the worst possible times. So instead of teaching her the occasions where that shot might be useful or tactically savvy (which would require some time and effort), he forbids her to use it altogether (which is easy).

He does have a point in that the dropshots tend to be the "weapon" of the terminally lazy - it's no coincidence that Oprandi is the Dropshot Dame.

Back on topic, I suspect most of the coaches of even pro players to be nothing more than hacks with little to no idea about what they're doing.

From the (admittedly little) I've seen of the practice sessions of the pros and their coaches in tournaments, I noticed that I seldom saw the coaches have players work on a particular skill/shot (exception was, rather unsurprisignly, van Harpen) or try out shot combinations. It's mostly unimaginative, run-of-the-mill exchanges of groundstrokes.

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He chose the easy way out. Gajdosova tends to hit dropshots at the worst possible times. So instead of teaching her the occasions where that shot might be useful or tactically savvy (which would require some time and effort), he forbids her to use it altogether (which is easy).

He does have a point in that the dropshots tend to be the "weapon" of the terminally lazy - it's no coincidence that Oprandi is the Dropshot Dame.

Back on topic, I suspect most of the coaches of even pro players to be nothing more than hacks with little to no idea about what they're doing.

From the (admittedly little) I've seen of the practice sessions of the pros and their coaches in tournaments, I noticed that I seldom saw the coaches have players work on a particular skill/shot (exception was, rather unsurprisignly, van Harpen) or try out shot combinations. It's mostly unimaginative, run-of-the-mill exchanges of groundstrokes.
well, what came before what? the drop-shot becoming a shot when tired or wanting to finish up the point - or players never mastering it to begin with as a potential and ligitimate mid-rally shot.

I don't know much about coaches really, never seen practice drilling and rarely heard intresting insights from coaches about the game, and not just their current prodigy, but if as you say they don't have much clue - the tour is in better shape than we thought
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When I read it, I thought it was a strange decision. I think there should be some kind of 'punishment' for over using it but to stop her doing it at all is just crazy
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lol she has explained that her drop shot is a shot that she has been hitting perfectly since she was a kid... she doesnt need to practice it like the rest of her game so its a way of breaking her habit..

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lol she has explained that her drop shot is a shot that she has been hitting perfectly since she was a kid... she doesnt need to practice it like the rest of her game so its a way of breaking her habit..
Err....right. So she should avoid hitting a shot that she can hit perfectly and a win points with. I wonder if her coach will now try to systematically one by one remove all the shots she hits well from her game just to make things really challenging for her.

Frankly the thing with dropshots is that it isn't just learning how to execute the shot that matters, the key is learning when is the appropiate time to play the shot. And you can really only learn this by the experience of playing the shot. I really don't see what there is to be gained by removing this shot from her repetoire, even temporarily.

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From the (admittedly little) I've seen of the practice sessions of the pros and their coaches in tournaments, I noticed that I seldom saw the coaches have players work on a particular skill/shot (exception was, rather unsurprisignly, van Harpen) or try out shot combinations. It's mostly unimaginative, run-of-the-mill exchanges of groundstrokes.
I've often thought the same, apart from the serve which I've seen players work on for long periods. The only exception that springs to mind is Dementieva, who I once saw at Wimbledon hitting backhand returns of serve for over half an hour, at which point I gave up and moved on. This was just after she'd played a match as she was still in her tennis clothes.
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Err....right. So she should avoid hitting a shot that she can hit perfectly and a win points with. I wonder if her coach will now try to systematically one by one remove all the shots she hits well from her game just to make things really challenging for her.

Frankly the thing with dropshots is that it isn't just learning how to execute the shot that matters, the key is learning when is the appropiate time to play the shot. And you can really only learn this by the experience of playing the shot. I really don't see what there is to be gained by removing this shot from her repetoire, even temporarily.
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