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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old Oct 19th, 2008, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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The Next Great Player

I'm going to set a completely artificial criteria. 9 GS singles titles, or 30 total slam titles overall. '30 total slam titles' overall applies to only sseven players in the hisory of women's tennis.

Margaret Court (62)
Martina Navratilova (59)
Margaret Osbourne DuPont (36)
Louise Brough (35)
Helen Wills Moody (31)
Suzanne Lenglem (31)
Billie Kean King (30)
Doris Hart (30)

All those players won at least 6 GS singles titles, so I am NOT lowering the bar some how to let undeserving doubles players into the conversation.

Add to those seven the few players who won ore than nine GS singles titles and NOT 30 overall slam titles ...

Graf (23 overall, 22 singles)
Evert (21 overall, 18 singles)
Connolly (11 overall, 9 singles)
Seles (9 overall, 9 singles)

And you pretty much the best of the best. The next player who even enters the discussion is Serena, but she's active, so why get into it?

Putting Serena aside, who's the next player who's going to achieve 9 GS singles titles or 30 overall GS titles.

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Serena has 9 + 7 + 2= 18 Total Slams
Venus has 7 + 7 + 2 = 16 Total Slams
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With the current depth of women tennis it's impossible to win 30 slams total and hardly possible to win 10 slams in singles.
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Given the current trend of higher physical requirements which cause that players are often injured and have shorter careers, trend of singles/doubles specialization and stiffer competition I doubt we will see a player winning 30 GS titles in the near future if ever. 9 GS singles is doable but also very hard.
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Michelle Larcher de Brito will be the next multi-slam winner.

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Ok. Nine slams. Well as you say Serena is already there. Who else could reach that level? Of active players I believe only Venus has a chance, and quite a good one. I'd say it is now better than 50/50 that Venus will reach 9 slams. But I don't see anyone else doing it after that for many years. There are a lot of good young players coming up but I don't see one stand out who is going to dominate over everyone else. I think we are heading for a long period of parity.

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I stopped reading here: All those players won at least 6 GS singles titles, so I am NOT lowering the bar some how to let undeserving doubles players into the conversation.

There are more "great players" than the one listed in the OP too.
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What I hope/dream will happen:

Sharapova: 9-10 slams by age 26-27. 3 Aussie, 1 French, 3 Wimbledon, 3USO, Olimpic Gold medal in singles, 100+ weeks as world #1, the honor of winning 3 or more majors in one season, the first Russian to win the career Grand Slam

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That would satisfy your criteria I think.
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There are more "great players" than the one listed in the OP too.
Yes there are. But the point was that you really can't argue about the players in the OP.

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What I hope/dream will happen:

Sharapova: 9-10 slams by age 26-27. 3 Aussie, 1 French, 3 Wimbledon, 3USO, Olimpic Gold medal in singles, 100+ weeks as world #1, the honor of winning 3 or more majors in one season, the first Russian to win the career Grand Slam

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That would satisfy your criteria I think.
What a wish list, but do you see that happening.

The only player with the talent and longevity to do it is Venus, and as you have said Serena is already there. Sharapova/Ivanovic need to get their skates on if they plan on matching what the Williamses MAY amount by the time their careers are all said and done. Not that im suggesting that is their aim anyhow, but since that's the topic.

Sharapova should probably go double digits in slams, but then again Vee/Ree shld both be there already, tennis has so many intangibles. Oh, and didn't Masha say she'd bunk off like Henin if she got 7 slams?

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What I hope/dream will happen:

Sharapova: 9-10 slams by age 26-27. 3 Aussie, 1 French, 3 Wimbledon, 3USO, Olimpic Gold medal in singles, 100+ weeks as world #1, the honor of winning 3 or more majors in one season, the first Russian to win the career Grand Slam

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That would satisfy your criteria I think.
Sharapova wont be playing that long....

anyways... Venus will have nine by the end of 2009...

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Re: The Next Great Player

Hingis, Venus and Henin already deserve to be noted like "Great Player", despite less than 9 career GS titles.

Out of current active players seems that 1987 girls Maria Sharapova and Ana Ivanovic have nice chance to "dominate" in next several seasons over theirs 5 years older and 5 years younger opponents (between 1982-1992 born players). Jankovic, Kuznetsova and Safina is great talents with big potential and some current teenagers is realy interesting - but i think on long term Ana and Maria have some advantage ahead all others so this time no "equal race" in potential achivments like from early 80' generation between Hingins, Venus, Serena and Henin.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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