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There is no 'best' player in the WTA this year

I'm not even putting aside the rankings. The rankings are designed to be a fair way to seed tournaments, and they do that. But the rankings do NOT order the players from best to worst. But the best player is certainly going to be in the top ten somewhere, barring injury.

The best player should be undisputably, and obviously that. (Serena '02, Henin '07). Oftentimes it's two players, and then everyone else, but usually one of those two is clearly better. The fans of any of the top eight players (adding in Zurich ranking points) ....
1 Jelena Jankovic
2 Dinara Safina
3 Serena Williams
4 Ana Ivanovic
5 Elena Dementieva
6 Maria Sharapova
7 Svetlana Kuznetsova
8 Venus Williams
.... could make the case that their fave is just as good as any of the others. That's not a 'best' scenraio.

Will the YEC decide anything? Not really. Well, if Ivanovic wins it, she'll have a GS win, a final, and the YEC. Not a strong year, by 'best player' standards, but a very good year otherwise. OTOH, suppose Kuznetsova wins it?

This year has a lot of 1998 in it.

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Well, I'm like the Williams' sisters in my thinking - who cares about the notion of "best player", just give me the slams!!!
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I'm not even putting aside the rankings. The rankings are designed to be a fair way to seed tournaments, and they do that. But the rankings do NOT order the players from best to worst. But the best player is certainly going to be in the top ten somewhere, barring injury.

The best player should be undisputably, and obviously that. (Serena '02, Henin '07). Oftentimes it's two players, and then everyone else, but usually one of those two is clearly better. The fans of any of the top eight players (adding in Zurich ranking points) ....
1 Jelena Jankovic
2 Dinara Safina
3 Serena Williams
4 Ana Ivanovic
5 Elena Dementieva
6 Maria Sharapova
7 Svetlana Kuznetsova
8 Venus Williams
.... could make the case that their fave is just as good as any of the others. That's not a 'best' scenraio.

Will the YEC decide anything? Not really. Well, if Ivanovic wins it, she'll have a GS win, a final, and the YEC. Not a strong year, by 'best player' standards, but a very good year otherwise. OTOH, suppose Kuznetsova wins it?

This year has a lot of 1998 in it.
well, it seems Serena is the favorite: Wimbledon final, wins at U.S. Open and Miami and a total of four titles to her name so far. Ana, Jelena and Venus if either won could make the case for player of the year also with a win.
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I'm not even putting aside the rankings. The rankings are designed to be a fair way to seed tournaments, and they do that. But the rankings do NOT order the players from best to worst. But the best player is certainly going to be in the top ten somewhere, barring injury.

The best player should be undisputably, and obviously that. (Serena '02, Henin '07). Oftentimes it's two players, and then everyone else, but usually one of those two is clearly better. The fans of any of the top eight players (adding in Zurich ranking points) ....
1 Jelena Jankovic
2 Dinara Safina
3 Serena Williams
4 Ana Ivanovic
5 Elena Dementieva
6 Maria Sharapova
7 Svetlana Kuznetsova
8 Venus Williams
.... could make the case that their fave is just as good as any of the others.
That's not a 'best' scenraio.

Will the YEC decide anything? Not really. Well, if Ivanovic wins it, she'll have a GS win, a final, and the YEC. Not a strong year, by 'best player' standards, but a very good year otherwise. OTOH, suppose Kuznetsova wins it?

This year has a lot of 1998 in it.
Really ? I'm waiting to see someone makes the case of Venus or Sveta being the best player this year.Should be interesting...
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So far Serena's has the biggest win and if she wins YEC then she is player of the year

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If i had to choose id give it to Serena. She made the final of Wimbledon, won USO, won the biggest tier 1 hardcourt event, and won 1 of the two biggest clay court events, and a tier 2 in Bangalore. Its been her best year in a long while.
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Justine was the best player by far the last 5 years before she retired. More than twice as many slam wins as anyone else, more titles, more weeks at #1 than anyone else.
Now that she retired, it might take a couple of years before someone else pulls away from the pack

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YEC will help sort it out guys, just wait.

If Jelena, Dinara or Serena wins then we will have a CLEAR player of the year.
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Really ? I'm waiting to see someone makes the case of Venus or Sveta being the best player this year.Should be interesting...
Which is exactly why I did NOT write that. What I wote was ".... could make the case that their fave is just as good as any of the others".

Wanna see me make the case that Venus is 'just as good as' Jelena Jankovic. I'll do it in seven words.
Venus won a slam. Jankovic did not.
Winning arguement? Maybe, maybe not. 'Make-able- arguement? Definitely.
Wanna see me make the case that Venus is 'just as good as' Serena. They faced off in the biggest match of the year. Who won?

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In my opinion, the 2008 season can be summarized in 4 different quarters....

1st Quarter (beginning of year until mid April) - Sharapova's dominance / Serena's great comeback
2nd Quarter (Mid April till end May) - Ana reaching the Summit
3rd Quarter (End May till mid August) - The Rise of Dinara
4th Quarter (Mid August till now) - Resurgence of Jelena

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Justine was the best player by far the last 5 years before she retired. More than twice as many slam wins as anyone else, more titles, more weeks at #1 than anyone else.
Now that she retired, it might take a couple of years before someone else pulls away from the pack
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This year was unusual because Justine retired and Maria had a rotator cuff tear, and coming out of the 2008 AO they had won 5 of the previous 8 majors.
There were 4 majors an Olympics and a YE #1, and that is 6 different players.
Next year will help sort things out.

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Only Serena, Jelena, Ana and Venus are in contention for POY, imo. If one of them wins YEC the case is closed. If another player wins, POY is going to Serena based on her USO win over Jankovic and Miami win over Jankovic.
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Justine was the best player by far the last 5 years before she retired. More than twice as many slam wins as anyone else, more titles, more weeks at #1 than anyone else.
Now that she retired, it might take a couple of years before someone else pulls away from the pack
Uhumm...most consistent if you'd like. Although that ZERO wimbledons surely is a shame.

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I only look to Serena, Jelena and Ana for being the best player of the year. If one of them wins the YEC it will strengthen their case but I think it will still pretty open.

1998 was Davenport and then Hingis, nobody else came close.
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