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Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

".....a player really has to want to get suspended to get suspended under this rule,"
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Some of the other changes attempt to address the ongoing problem of players skipping events. For the first time, top-10 players who miss any of the nine top tournaments could be suspended.
But it's easy to avoid a suspension: Players must make a promotional appearance in the tournament city, either during the event or at a later date.
"Sort of the way our board's looking at it is a player really has to want to get suspended to get suspended under this rule," Scott said.
If a suspension were to occur, it would be for two tournaments the following year. Players will be automatically penalized in their rankings and earnings for skipping big events.
One tricky situation could be the Williams sisters' avoidance of the tournament at Indian Wells, Calif. They haven't played there since 2001, when the family was booed after Venus withdrew just before a semifinal match against Serena.
They have said they plan to bypass the event again next year.
"I'm sure we can figure out things for them to do that are good for tennis in Southern California, good for the tournament, without being something that's embarrassing for them or the tournament," Scott said of the promotional appearances they'd need to make to comply with the new rule.
I would love to know the definition of 'promotional appearance'.

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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

I'd like to know what an "embarrassment" for the Williams sisters would be. Suspending the sisters is just going to drive the casual fans they bring in away and I'm sure the WTA is the one that doesn't want this to be a problem, since the sisters have made it clear they aren't playing no matter what. He's tryin to save face knowing the sisters aren't going to change their mind.

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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

Well if you dont play a tournament for personal reasons... its kind of weird to have to promote it. For some people that can be embarrassing.

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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

Clarification: it was the crowd who booed them, right? the tournament has got nothing to do with it, i guess?



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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

If they don't want to play it, I don't think they'll want to promote it. Thats the whole point of not playing it.

And how can you promote a tournament which has just happened?
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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

They won't promote the tournament. They will turn out for a few hours in the area at some point and smile a little, have there pictures taken, say a few nice things about how tennis is growing in Southern California or something like that and just generally appear like they are vaguely promoting WTA tennis. Maybe they will do a training session with a few young kids, something like that. And at the end of the day all parties will have saved face, in a silly pointless kind of way.

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They will not be suspended from any tournament if they do not play IW, I just read that on ESPN in an interview Scott did with Bonnie Ford (i think that's her name)
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WS not going is cruel for the organisers, but who cares about them. They should have handled the crowd better.

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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

@ "or at a later date" like at the end of the year when no one is even thinking about Indian Wells... V/S will schedule an inner city stop as part of their McDonald's tour.
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Clarification: it was the crowd who booed them, right? the tournament has got nothing to do with it, i guess?
No not right. The tournament allowed the crowd to continue to act in a mob mentality. The tournament never admitted their part in the fiasco. And finally the tournament never apologized for their part in the . so in my opinion it is the tournament that V&S are boycotting not the fans.
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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

Its probably to promote tennis, even if its not Indian Wells. Like last year Djokovic went on Leno.


Anyway people severely overestimate Serena and Venus. Them not playing Indian Wells or Miami or whatever banned tournament truly does not effect ticket sales. Recession, higher prices, and other monetary hardships are going to be much more factorable than "OMG SERENA AND VENUS AINT GOING ". It will definetly affect TV viewership though
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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

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Clarification: it was the crowd who booed them, right? the tournament has got nothing to do with it, i guess?
Yeah the crowd booed them. The people were so angry, there wasn't much the tournament organizers could've done, other than canceling the final.

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@ "or at a later date" like at the end of the year when no one is even thinking about Indian Wells... V/S will schedule an inner city stop as part of their McDonald's tour.
That sounds just about right.

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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

So, if I understand correctly, it is not about the sport anymore. As long as Larry can keep the top players whoring around, they won't be penalized.


Now I understand why Henin quit the tour. The WTA has become a traveling escort agency. Female sport will never be taken serious again.
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Re: Lateset nonsense on 'mandatory' tournaments

What's this promoting at a "later date" business all about? How do you promote a tournament that has already finished? Do they mean promoting the tournament for the next year? If this is the case, it still a bit silly. Example, having a player promote a tournament in june when the event is actually held in febuary is not really going to do much for the tournament.
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