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"Sold out" games, empty seats

The USTA claims on their website that all tickets have been sold, yet there's been so many empty seats. Even marquee matchups like the QFs of Venus/Serena, Djokovic/ Roddick, both of the women's SF's, both of the men's SF's had lots of empty seats; doesn't get any better than a Federer/Djoker SF, yet still so many empty seats. I have a hard time believing so many people would just buy tickets then don't show up. What's going on? Were the matches all really sold out as claimed? Or was it just a marketing ploy?
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i am unsure but the question was in my mind too. U couldn't get them off of ticketmaster and yes you are right there were frickin hundreds/thousands of empty seats in ashe on a daily basis, night matches were a little fuller. I sat in AA for the womens dbles semi, moved down to the middle tier (couldnt get in the lower tier, because of security-altho there were trillions of seats), thought it would pack in a little for the mxd final, no, still most of the top tiers were EMPTY, federer, 3rd match on, admittedly more people flocked in, but still i was front row middle section with a ton of seats clear around me and still all top tier wide open.
So i reckon it was a marketting ploy. Odd though admittedly!

yeah whatever
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Two words: Ticket scalpers.
It blew up in their face because a lot of people seeing on the website how the event was sold out, didn't bother to come out and try to buy tickets at the window. Every year before this, there was a pool of tickets reserved for walk ups. This year USTA decided to put all tickets up for sale early and they got snatched up- thus the anouncement.
I bet you could get in at below face value on some nights because there were so many scalpers and not enough demand.
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BTW, I think there will be a lot of tickets available for Monday final. I'm tempted to make the trip.
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for day matches, an Arthur Ashe ticket can get you to any court. Its very rare, if ever, that every seat in Ashe is full during the day.

for Night Matches, it is like a party in the hallways. But the biggest part is Scalpers, who buy so many tickets and never sell enough. There are still tickets for the finals being sold on sites like stubhub and ticketsnow.

as for why the promenade is never full. Think of it this way. For the mens final, there are more people are more willing to spend 3000 dollars on courtside tickets than 600-900 dollars on crappy promenade seats.

Plus, theres an indoor restaurant at ashe and the hallways outside of the seats are always packed. I really never get why for that though.
And then theres those that aren't huge tennis fans who leave after a few hours. There are those who dont show up etc.

Id say its the same for almost any tournament.
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Football games rarely have empty seats. They also black out the game on local TV unless the game is sold out. I think scalpers is partly to blame for sure, like what happened with the Beijing Olympics. Those empty seats look bad on TV, especially for the 4 SF matches. It makes it seem like New Yorkers just don't care. TV ratings have been hurting this year too, down 15% Labor Day weekend on CBS from last year. I'm sure having the Democratic/Republican conventions on doesn't help.

I hate scalpers, they are like leeches, always wish someone would just pounce them into the pavement. Why these guys can legally do what they do is beyond me. It's the main reason why we never go to live sporting events anymore. USTA is being lazy if they sell tickets to known scalpers just so they can claim all tickets are sold.
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Corporate seats too. Big businesses buy up tickets that never end up getting used
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To the best of my knowledge, the women semi-finals session is NEVER sold out. There's always plenty of tickets left. And I really doubt scalpers are buying many tickets from that session as well.

Today attendance was expected. They started matches 1 hour earlier and many people didn't bother to show up because bad whether was expected.
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TV ratings have been hurting this year too, down 15% Labor Day weekend on CBS from last year.
That's not surprising. CBS decided to give the Saturday/Monday spots to Nadal (when it used to be Agassi for almost a decade), and I doubt Americans care really much about him. A Fed/Roddick combo for Saturday/Monday would have produced better ratings.
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USA has been getting really low ratings as well for all their prime time showings. They showed many Roddick matches in prime time. Roddick may be popular among tennis fans, but he's really not a household name like Agassi, Sampras, McEnroe, Connors, etc. His results the last few years certainly didn't help. I used to really like him, these days he just bores me, especially now that he's engaged, he's good as dead to most of his female fans. I'd rather watch Federer or Djokovic. But you're right, most Americans couldn't care less for Nadal, including me. He's unwatchable. Takes forever to get a serve out.
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Sold out to the general public. Tickets are still on special reserves for certain people, as well as scalpers having tons of tickets to resell and make a profit. Trust me when I say this, no sports event/concert or what have you is EVER sold out. There are always tickets available, you just never know when they will pop up as being available to the general public.

That and many people who have purchased tickets don't show up. it happens. especially when businesses purchase tickets; poeople who have been offered freebe tickets often don't show up. Pretty sad since it's FREE for them.

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Having free tickets, you are much less inclined to go than if you paid for them. Somebody hands you tickets, you have to replace whatever else you were going to do with this. And since you didn't pay for the tickets, you just might want to do whatever else you were going to do because it is something you paid for and/or are interested in and/or just needs to be done.

Also it's a big hassle to get out there to this venue, park, and get in.

And if you are expecting rain, chances are even worse that you will go.
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they were all Justine fans who brought tickets before she retired

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Re: "Sold out" games, empty seats

Why don't they have empty seats at Wimbledon? What are they doing differently than the USO? Is it the daily queue? If the Wimbledon center court was as large as Ashe Stadium, would it be full for the women's semi-finals? Personally, I think Ashe Stadium is too large. I'd much rather be home watching a match on T.V. than from anywhere in the top half of Ashe Stadium.
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They have invented the virtual spectator at US tournaments.
Not much different from Miami where ladies semi finals are usually played in a half empty stadium.
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