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Simply the best (technical)

What do you think: Who is the best active player technically now that Justine has retired?

Mauresmo?
Davenport?
V. or S. Williams?

I personally never really liked Justines shots technically. Her backhand looked a little bit strange in the slomo. I think she was just extremly good at improvising but her shots were not that round and fluent as Mauresmos shots for example.

Also: Who is the most gifted player?

Ever: Martina Navratilova (no doubt about it)
These days: Serena Williams??
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Re: Simply the best (technical)

Mauresmo's FH and serve are far from fluid

I would say Ivanovic. Her serve and FH technique are very simple and beautiful
Serena's serve is the best technically
JJ's BH and Petrova's volleys too

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No not Serena. Her footwork is very off sometimes. She hits things open-stanced and that's not the best shot in techincal terms.

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She hits things open-stanced and that's not the best shot in techincal terms.
Considering she's the most accomplished player since Steffi Graf, maybe hitting open-stanced is more technically sound than you give it credit for.


This is a difficult question to answer, because different players try to do different things. Patty Schnyder and Lindsay Davenport attempt very different things on the court. How do you even measure who's more 'technically' sound? The tennis talking heads seem to universally describe Sharapova as more technically sound than Serena. But Sharapova hasn't beaten Serena since 2004.


The player who's technique most frequently looks clean to me (and Ihaven't seen her much) is Anna Chakvetadze. But she's also trying to do far less with the ball than Ivanovic or Safina. Shahar Peer has fine technique. But all she's doing against top players is trying to keep the ball in play. Maybe the true measure of technique is how good it is when you're under pressure. Say, Steffi Graf vs Monica Seles in the 1999 RG semi.

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Ivanovic?

Davenport without a doubt. Tati has very good technique, even on her volleys (although she needs to punch them more) but Davenport was top when Henin was here and still is.

Sveta's technique is underrated. Although her serve isn't technically very good. I love Maria's technique on her backhand, same with Safina. Serena's serve. Anyone else?
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Ivanovic?

Davenport without a doubt. Tati has very good technique, even on her volleys (although she needs to punch them more) but Davenport was top when Henin was here and still is.

Sveta's technique is underrated. Although her serve isn't technically very good. I love Maria's technique on her backhand, same with Safina. Serena's serve. Anyone else?
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Backhand. (Or rather non-existent.)

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Lindsay Davenport has the purest technique I've seen since Chris Evert, superior to Hingis, Justine, Graf or Navratilova imo.

I think Serena is technically sound in most areas, but some of her game while perhaps being excellent is not technically excellent in that it is not always reliable, under pressure or no. Such as: her forehand, footwork, volleys etc.

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It's Hingis, Henin and Davenport for me.

Serena. Simona. Ana. Petra. Venus.
Clijsters, Henin, Dementieva, Davenport.
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Technically speaking, without any doubts, PATTY SCHNYDER. She's 30 and still TOP 15. When she plays, everything seems easy.
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Backhand. (Or rather non-existent.)
You can still have good technique and suck, you know? Just like Tati's backhand. It's very simple, compact, takes it in front of her, so on and so forth and you would think that not much could go wrong.. Somehow something always does go wrong.

But yeah, Tati's forehand is technically perfect, her volleys have good technique but she has a tendency to be too passive (lack of confidence) so they can be pretty pathetic. She's changed her serve a million times but finally got it right at the end of last year and her serve was amazing. Her footwork is probably the best now that henin has retired. The girl takes like 20 smalls steps between every shot.
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No not Serena. Her footwork is very off sometimes. She hits things open-stanced and that's not the best shot in techincal terms.
The most adaptable stance though is the open-stance, you can recover better in the rallies because there isnt extreme grip changes between the forehand and backhand.

Lindsay Davenport has superb technique. On return notice how she'll stay back about 2 meters, and then as her opponent hits the serve she moves back into the court which allows her body-weight to flow through the ball and allows her to hit the ball early. I think her backhand volley too is just delightful. She has such soft hands, can really measure her shot on impact.

The thing which i like technically about the William Sisters is their extradonary racquet preperation. I cant recall anyone else on tour with such unique preperation, shaping up for the ball so well, rarely hitting a ball late and if anything if they make an error it's because they're hitting it too early.
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Ivanovic?

Davenport without a doubt. Tati has very good technique, even on her volleys (although she needs to punch them more) but Davenport was top when Henin was here and still is.

Sveta's technique is underrated. Although her serve isn't technically very good. I love Maria's technique on her backhand, same with Safina. Serena's serve. Anyone else?
Always Ana and Tati somewhere in your posts.

Btw you can remove the EDITED quote from your sig. I doubt Tati is even going to play the USO maybe not even Ana.

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Lindsay has the best ball striking technique i think weve ever seen - and i think even chris evert herself would agree!
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Lindsay...

What's with all this since Justine retired bullshit? Justine's strokes were not special, save for her backhand.

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