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Worst Top 3 In History?

With all the talk about how weak the tour is on top and how everything is in disarray because of injuries, etc., I was wondering....is this the weakest top 3 the WTA has ever seen?

On their current ranking:
1. Jelena Jankovic

Tournament Performance:
2 Major SF, 1 Tier I Title, 2 Tier I Final, 1 Tier I SF, 0 Other Titles,

Win/Loss Stats
4-9 vs. Top 10 (high #6 Chakvetadze - Dubai QF) (latest #9 V. Williams - Roma* QF)
[Wins over #9 Petrova (2007 Stuttgart QF) and #6 Chakvetadze (Dubai) were via retirement and also advanced to Roma F via walkover by #2 Sharapova in the SF]

Losses to players ranked out of the Top 30:

4 (low #234 Davenport - 2007 Bali QF) (latest #60 Tanasugarn - Wimbledon R16)

Longest Win Streak:

9 Matches (Roma - RG SF [only 9, not 10, because Roma SF was a W/O vs. Sharapova])

Longest Loss Streak:

6 Matches (Stuttgart QF - YEC ^2 retirements [vs. #68 Yan - 2007 Bangkok R32 & vs. #10 Bartoli - 2007 YEC])

2. Ana Ivanovic

Tournament Performance:
1 Major Title, 1 Major F, 1 Tier I Title, 1 Tier I Final, 1 Tier I SF, YEC SF, 0 Other Titles,

Win/Loss Stats
8-5 vs. Top 10 (high #2 Kuznetosva - 2007 YEC RR) (latest #3 Jankovic - Paris SF*)

Losses To Players Out Of The Top 30
6 (low #168 Yan - 2007 Toronto R32) (latest #92 Paszek - Montreal R16)

Longest Win Streak:

9 Matches (Paris - Wimbledon R32)

Longest Loss Streak:
2 Matches (Berlin SF - Roma R32)

3. Svetlana Kuznetsova

Tournament Performance:
1 Major F, 1 Tier I Final, 1 Tier I SF, 0 Other Titles,

Win/Loss Stats
5-8 vs. Top 10 (high #4 Jankovic - Dubai SF) (latest #7 V. Williams - Miami QF )

Losses to players ranked out of the Top 30:

2 (low #34 Cornet - Roma 16) (latest #32 Wozniacki - Eastbourne R16)

Longest Win Streak:

9 Matches (2007 New Haven - US Open F [3 wins from New Haven were retirements])

Longest Loss Streak:
4 Matches (2007 Zurich - YEC RR)

*went on to win event


What do you think?

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Yes.

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Agreed.

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Yes, out of 8 possible slam finals, the top 3 only have 3 total, and the #1 never reached a slam final

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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Resounding "yes".
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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Without a doubt in my mind. Henin and Sharapova...come back.
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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Has it ever happened that the most dominant player in the last 6 years retired suddenly and had her record whiped off the rankings?

If not, than this is all irrelevant.

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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Serena will change all of this within 4 weeks hopefully.

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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Without a doubt...sadly. It's a shame, because all three are capable of better results than they are currently achieving.

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(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
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Has it ever happened that the most dominant player in the last 6 years retired suddenly and had her record whiped off the rankings?

If not, than this is all irrelevant.
How is Henin the most dominate player of the last six years ?

Anyway, I think that compared to other "top threes" yes this one is very weak.
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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

They are probably the lowest achieving top 3 of all time.

BUT, it doesn't mean they won't be capable of great tennis so it's harsh to call them the worst top 3.
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Re: Worst Top 3 In History?

Yes, definitely.

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Has it ever happened that the most dominant player in the last 6 years retired suddenly and had her record whiped off the rankings?

If not, than this is all irrelevant.
Yes actually, when Court first retired. Obviously computer rankings weren't around then, but they couldn't rank a retired a player at the end of the year.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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How is Henin the most dominate player of the last six years ?

Anyway, I think that compared to other "top threes" yes this one is very weak.
i think he/she meant most dominant season of a player in the last 6 years
but even calling her the best player from 2003 - 2008 would not be wrong

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How is Henin the most dominate player of the last six years ?

Anyway, I think that compared to other "top threes" yes this one is very weak.
2003, 2006, 2007 she finished the year as no.1 and dominated the claycourt season of 2005. Won a grand slam in every year since 2003 aswell as a host of other big titles. Nobody else has dominated on such a high level since Serena at the start of 2003.
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