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View Poll Results: How many different #1 players you expect to see in 2008?
Current THREE and nobody else (Henin, Sharapova and Ivanovic) 8 9.88%
FOUR different #1 for this season (and tied WTA record from 2006) 41 50.62%
FIVE different #1 for this season (and tied ATP record from 1999) 23 28.40%
MORE THAN FIVE (new Open Era record of different #1 players in one single season) 9 11.11%
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How many different #1 players you expect to see in 2008 (Safina case is updated)?





ALREADY REACH:
- Justine Henin
- Maria Sharapova
- Ana Ivanovic
- Jelena Jankovic
- Serena Williams



US Open updates:

This thread is started in july when we still have 3 different 2008 #1 players in WTA (Henin, Sharapova, Ivanovic), with 3 other players which have some realistics chances to reach WTA top spot (Jankovic, Kuznetsova, S.Williams). Henin retire 2 months ago, but Sharapova and Ivanovic is still in very good position to prevent anybody, but than Sharapova announce withdraws from all events in atleast next 2-3 months (shoulder injury) and Ivanovic b/c thumb injury whole summer played just two tournaments (without result) - so less than 50 days since this thread is started OPTION1 (three 2008 different #1) and most voted OPTION2 (four 2008 different #1) is already outdated thanks to Jelena Jankovic (#1 at august 11) and Serena Williams (#1 since september 8). So WTA 2008 season reach new WTA record ever by number of different #1 players in one single season and tied overall tennis record with ATP 1999 season (also five different #1 players).

Talking about todays newest 5th different #1 2008 player Serena Williams is very interesting fact that she is comeback at #1 after longest 265 weeks pause in tennis history (previous record 177-Connors-ATP and 156-Evert-WTA).

But season is still not over, and two most consistent players this summer Elena Dementieva and Dinara Safina still have some chances to reach #1 and make this season probably craziest ever. Despite big difference in points for Serena, we all knows how reduced is always her september-october shedule (for change, i expect of her atleast to play seriously YEC) so probably bigger problem for Elena and Dinara will be to overtake Jelena Jankovic which is finaly injury-free and in seasons best shape (together with red clay season).



LATEST NEWS/ EDIT (after Tokyo)
It's still not over! Dinara Safina still have (good?) chances... even Elena Dementieva have some (but unrealistics). Here is current projections for Seasons ending rankings where i'm counting players 5 mandatory and other 9 "best of rest" 2008 results (so players have 3 empty places for YEC and other two 2008 september/october tournaments):


3680 Serena Williams
3550 Jelena Jankovic
3442 Dinara Safina
2882 Ana Ivanovic
2963 Elena Dementieva


But for Safina chances to reach #1 is probably more important MOSCOW WEEK when will be cut-off of Serena's Kremlin Cup 2007 final. Here is
OCTOBER 13 WTA list projection:
Serena 3716 + Stuttgart/08 + Moscow/08***
Jelena 3550 + Beijing/08 + Stuttgart/08 + Moscow/08
Dinara 3442 + Beijing/08 + Stuttgart/08 + Moscow/08
***no big surprise if Serena withdraws from one of this two tournaments.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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Re: How many different #1 players you expect to see in 2008?

Maria losing those 400 San Diego points will hurt her ranking big time. And with her inconsistent form this season, who knows how much lower she can go


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None, unfortunately. Maria or Ana will be trading #1 spots for the rest of the year.

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I think that JJ will become #1 at some point this season, though her reign will be short lived. I thought Serena would become #1 this year too, but now with her knee I'm not so sure.
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Jankovic has a fantastic opportunity to become #1. I can see her taking it for at least a week or two.
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With Serena's injury, Jankovic will likely grab the spot for a week or two in August. Unless Sveta the Slayer comes out and starts to win some finals then she would be # 1.
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With Serena's injury, Jankovic will likely grab the spot for a week or two in August. Unless Sveta the Slayer comes out and starts to win some finals then she would be # 1.
If I see maria Sharapova I'll be very happy. And I don't mean see as in literally see. I mean if I "see" her, in the sense of the game of poker, come up with about, let's see, $2,008 for June, $2,008 for May, I don't know say $20,000. In fact if she wanted to give me $20,000 I could give her an original work of art with my name on it. Only trouble is she probably doesn't want to believe my name will ever be worth that much.
This is probably starting to sound like a "rave" rather than a point of explanation, but girls these days, if you try to sell them software for their computers tend to want to get married and have a family before they are prepared to concede, no, it is just a business transaction and I don't want to marry them as well, even if they try to insist. (It happened that the five year old daughter of a friend didn't want to take a shell ring from me because she thought we may have to get married and she didn't want to hurt mummy's feelings.)
So it may be better to charge the whole price of $200,000, rather than try to make a concession just to be on the safe side.
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I'm not sure what the program is for her to become #1, but it is difficult to cut through all the fog about her shoulder injury and surgery. I can understand why she just doesn't come out, and I have been hinting at this for over six months, and say these are the facts, but she doesn't want the others to know the true extent of her injuries, in case they manage to exploit it. Why would someone blab their medical history in public? (Because if the do people will think they are a hypochondriac and just like to talk about themselves and their fake medical conditions). For me who doesn't believe in ill health, but sees it philosophically as a symptom of some deeper problem, you know I can't actually see Sharapove losing to Jankovich any time soon, nor her felling sorry enough for her to let her win.
I'd be more worried about Davenport making a quick return, if she decides to play the main circuit instead of all teh little tournaments. Appearance money should rival prize money for those, to make the incentives better for the women, and then we will see more like Ana making the switch once and for all., maybe.
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more than 5, Sveta/JJ, Venus and Serena will be next


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WTA list during US Open/08:
3553 Ana Ivanovic + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08
3251 Serena Williams + LA/08??? + Beijing/08
3155 Jelena Jankovic + LA/08 + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08
3071 Maria Sharapova + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08
3070 Svetlana Kuznetsova + LA/08 + Beijing/08

WTA list week after US Open/08:
3413 Ana Ivanovic + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08 + USO/08
3001 Serena Williams + LA/08??? + Beijing/08 + USO/08
2981 Maria Sharapova + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08 + USO/08
2905 Jelena Jankovic + LA/08 + Montreal/08 + Beijing/08 + USO/08
2370 Svetlana Kuznetsova + LA/08 + Beijing/08 + USO/08
How about without Beijing? Sharapova winning everything she is in and Ana craping out?
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How good Jelena position to reach #1 in next 4 weeks is fact that even with first match upset in LA she will use her 70pts "17th best result", so if she reach Montreal Semifinal Ivanovic need atleast final in Canada to be ahead her and for Sveta LA win will not be enough:

Ivanovic with Montreal SF will have 3553+195=3748 pts
Jankovic with Montreal SF will have 3490+195+70=3755 pts
Kuznetsova with LA title will have 3455+275=3730 pts

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How about without Beijing? Sharapova winning everything she is in and Ana craping out?
Beijing Olympics is playing before US Open, so of course that points from OG tournament will be counted for rating of all this 5 players during and after US Open.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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ALREADY REACH:
- Justine Henin
- Maria Sharapova
- Ana Ivanovic
No I don't agree. #1 is the one like the yellow jersey in Tour of France who hold the #1 spot for the longest (majority) of time.
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Ivanovic with Montreal SF will have 3553+195=3748 pts
Jankovic with Montreal SF will have 3490+195+70=3755 pts
Kuznetsova with LA title will have 3455+275=3730 pts

Beijing Olympics is playing before US Open, so of course that points from OG tournament will be counted for rating of all this 5 players during and after US Open.
Damn you, you KNOW I have to get out a pencil and paper to add 2981 to 195, but thanks, thanks anyway.
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I hope squeaky is here to stay but I dont think shes ready at the moment..Too much to learn..Hopefully she will stay at number 1

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The FOUR (for me that worthless, waste Henin doesn´t count as number 1) that most deserves are: Ana Ivanovic, Maria Sharapova, Serena Williams and Venus Williams!
ALL the others players(contenders) don´t have the caliber enough to be the number 1 player in the world
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The FOUR (for me that worthless, waste Henin doesn´t count as number 1) that most deserves are: Ana Ivanovic, Maria Sharapova, Serena Williams and Venus Williams!
ALL the others players(contenders) don´t have the caliber enough to be the number 1 player in the world
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