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Players who are terrible at planning their career.

I will start with:

Kristina Barrois (GER).

Barrois hates clay yet plays tons of tournaments on this surface.
Barrois likes grass yet only played the Wimbledon quali on that surface. During the other few grass tournaments she played Bundesliga (clay).
Barrois is tall, has a good serve and great volleys which should make her a good doubles player capable of reaching the top 100 easily. Yet she only played doubles at 8 of her 24 tournaments in the past year and is ranked somewhere in the 300's.
Barrois sucks and chokes all the time too, but that's another topic.

Any others?
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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

Lucie Safarova. Instead of taking time off to work on her game, she's been just playing and playing and playing. And losing and losing and losing.

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Hsieh Su-Wei
She plays too many low itf tourneys and isnt getting any practice against the bighitters in Wta...
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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

Pironkova

Insisted on playing qualies at upper tier events for years instead of playing down to boost her ranking. Finally got the lucky break she needed in Rome, but it took over two years. Was it worth it?

Vinci

Should have given up on her singles career long ago; her fitness isn't up to playing anything remotely similar to a normal schedule. Can't find a steady doubles partner, even though she could probably win big doubles titles with the appropriate wing(wo)man.

Dementieva

Plans her seasons in the back of a paper napkin. Favoured Fed Cup over everything else until Tarpi dumped her. Unbelievably retarded scheduling up until this season. Is now favouring Olympics over everything else.

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Venus and Serena Williams - they have the game for grass (big serves, strong groundstokes, good net play) but never play Birmingham and/or Eastbourne.

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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

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Venus and Serena Williams - they have the game for grass (big serves, strong groundstokes, good net play) but never play Birmingham and/or Eastbourne.
that's not bad planning, they want to save their energy for Wimbledon.

I think Henin the past few years playing Eastbourne was bad for her since she burnt out at Wimbledon


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Venus and Serena Williams - they have the game for grass (big serves, strong groundstokes, good net play) but never play Birmingham and/or Eastbourne.
Actually Venus and Serena were pretty smart about their schedule

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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

Leanne Baker - Girl, you need to know when to play a volley (generally not a good idea if your behind the baseline)

Shona Lee - Wrong career choice, everyone who has seen you thinks your instant Viagra!

Tammy Tanasugarn - Why don't you just play 3 or 4 Grass Tournaments a year

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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

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Venus and Serena Williams - they have the game for grass (big serves, strong groundstokes, good net play) but never play Birmingham and/or Eastbourne.
Their goal is to fight for the greatest trophies at Wimbledon thus they are conserving their energy. How many matches you want them to win in a row? 11? 13?

I don't see here any bad planning.
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Re: Players who are terrible at planning their career.

Malva reminds me - Radwanska has had horrible planning this year. Maybe not before, but she's winning too much to be playing so much. I'm glad she's having two weeks off after Wimbledon...anyone know if she's doing LA?

Jankovic was going this direction last year, but she's had a good schedule this season.

Aside from skipping Indian Wells and Rome/doing Istanbul, it's been good planning from Dementieva this season. I think her scheduling in '05 was good, actually...she over did it in the fall, yes, but the rest was fine.
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Malva reminds me - Radwanska has had horrible planning this year. Maybe not before, but she's winning too much to be playing so much. I'm glad she's having two weeks off after Wimbledon...anyone know if she's doing LA?
[Actually she is having 3½ weeks of rest.]

There was a lot of talk about that in Agnieszka's subforum in May and June. I was one of the few who had trust in her and her father's competence in the context of season's planning.

There were a few mistakes, especially in the beginning of the season, e.g., the last minute decision to play in Dubai which resulted in her playing something like 5 matches within the span of 3 days in two different countries. It's possible that this resulted in her mini-slump in March, during the transition between the hard-court and clay seasons.

One has to take into account that she started this year being ranked something like #29. For a quick rise in the rankings she had to play a lot. Easy to forget now, but she was still playing qualies in February (!).

What I heard from Agnieszka indicated that at every stage of her rise she was very reasonable at setting her expectations. And at every stage she was achieving more.

Around Roland Garros, after that forearm injury that deprived her of equal chances against Janković, they began adjusting her schedule with much less emphasis on playing the doubles, and after Eastbourne and Wimbledon, she will be playing just Stockholm (hard-courts) and Olympics before the US Open. She withdrew from every other tournament she was supposed to play.

So saying that her planning is horrible is probably based on expectation that she is continuing with the busy schedule from the first third of the year. And she is not.

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She's entered to play New Haven, isn't she?
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Kveta Peschke stopped playing singles and wins almost every singles match in the german league and recently in WTT without much problems.
Beating Pandzic, Hendler and Scheepers just days ago.
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Leanne Baker - Girl, you need to know when to play a volley (generally not a good idea if your behind the baseline)

Shona Lee - Wrong career choice, everyone who has seen you thinks your instant Viagra!

Tammy Tanasugarn - Why don't you just play 3 or 4 Grass Tournaments a year
Tammy has been a very solid hardcourt player over the years aswell .
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