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Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

UPDATED AFTER WIMBLEDON 2009

Points awarded:
Top 100 Player - 0.5
Top 50 Player - 1
Top 30 Player - 2
Top 20 Player - 3
Top 10 Player - 5
Top 5 Player - 8
Top 2 Player - 10
Number 1 Player - 20

Former World No.1 - 10

Grand Slam Champion - 12

If a player wins by retirement in 1 of her 7 matches, the points awarded for defeating that player is halved.

Players to have won a GS
Players to have been ranked No.1 in the world
Players to have won a GS AND been ranked No.1 in the world

Top 10
#1 Jennifer CAPRIATI - Australian Open 2001 - 96.5 pts.
(#37 Nagyova, #67 Oremans, #90 Ruano Pascual, #72 Marrero, #5 Seles, #2 Davenport, #1 Hingis)

#2 Venus WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2000 - 92 pts.
(#41 Hrdlickova, #20 Sugiyama, #24 Dechy, #27 Appelmans, #1 Hingis, #8 S Williams, #2 Davenport)

#3 Serena WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2003 - 83 pts.
(#67 Craybas, #65 Callens, #30 Granville, #16 Dementieva, #7 Capriati, #3 Henin-Hardenne, #4 V Williams)

=#3 Mary PIERCE - French Open 2000 - 83 pts.
(#88 Snyder, #107 Rittner, #351 Razzano, #53 Carlsson, #3 Seles, #1 Hingis, #5 Martinez)

#5 Amelie MAURESMO - Wimbledon 2006 - 78 pts.
(#192 Abramovic, #50 Stosur, #136 Pratt, #22 Ivanovic, #11 Myskina, #4 Sharapova, #3 Henin-Hardenne)

=#5 Serena WILLIAMS - French Open 2002 - 78 pts.
(#39 Sucha, #169 Radriantefy, #41 Husarova, #142 Zvonareva, #132 Pierce, #1 Capriati, #2 V Williams)

#7 Kim CLIJSTERS - US Open 2005 - 76 pts.
(#135 Muller, #58 Zuluaga, #33 Sugiyama, #72 Vento-Kabchi, #10 V Williams, #2 Sharapova, #12 Pierce)

#8 Serena WILLIAMS - Australian Open 2005 - 75.5 pts.
(#106 Pin, #67 Radriantefy, #166 Mirza, #13 Petrova, #2 Mauresmo, #4 Sharapova, #1 Davenport)

#9 Justine HENIN - US Open 2007 - 75 pts.
(#145 Goerges, #130 Pironkova, #156 Makarova, #16 Safina, #9 S Williams, #14 V Williams, #4 Kuznetsova)

#10 Maria SHARAPOVA - Australian Open 2008 - 74 pts.
(#102 Kostanic Tosic, #51 Davenport, #55 Vesnina, #11 Dementieva, #1 Henin, #4 Jankovic, #3 Ivanovic)

the rest:
11 - Venus WILLIAMS - US Open 2000 - 73 pts.

12 - Venus WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2005 - 71.5 pts.

13 - Maria SHARAPOVA - US Open 2006 - 70.5 pts.

14 - Justine HENIN-HARDENNE - French Open 2006 - 68.5 pts.

15 - Serena WILLIAMS - US Open 2002 - 66.5 pts.

16 - Anastasia MYSKINA - French Open 2004 - 64 pts.

17 - Maria SHARAPOVA - Wimbledon 2004 - 62 pts.

18 - Venus WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2007 - 61 pts.

19 - Justine HENIN-HARDENNE - French Open 2005 - 60.5 pts.

20 - Svetlana KUZNETSOVA - French Open 2009 - 57 pts.

21 - Jennifer CAPRIATI - French Open 2001 - 56 pts.

22 - Svetlana KUZNETSOVA - US Open 2004 - 55 pts.

23 - Serena WILLIAMS - US Open 2008 - 54.5 pts.

24 - Justine HENIN-HARDENNE - US Open 2003 - 53.5 pts.

25 - Justine HENIN-HARDENNE - Australian Open 2004 - 52 pts.

=25 - Venus WILLIAMS - US Open 2001 - 52 pts.

27 - Justine HENIN-HARDENNE - French Open 2003 - 51 pts.

28 - Serena WILLIAMS - Australian Open 2007 - 47 pts.

29 - Serena WILLIAMS - Australian Open 2003 - 46 pts.

=29 - Jennifer CAPRIATI - Australian Open 2002 - 46 pts.

31 - Serena WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2009 - 45 pts.

32 - Justine HENIN - French Open 2007 - 44 pts.

=32 Venus WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2001 - 44 pts.

34 - Serena WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2002 - 41 pts.

=34 - Lindsay DAVENPORT - Australian Open 2000 - 41 pts.

36 - Amelie MAURESMO - Australian Open 2006 - 38.5 pts.

37 - Venus WILLIAMS - Wimbledon 2008 - 37 pts.

38 - Serena WILLIAMS - Australian Open 2009 - 36.5 pts.

39 - Ana IVANOVIC - French Open 2008 - 17 pts.

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Re: Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

Do you add 10 and 12 respectively or together with each other if a player is also a GS champion and also a former world no.1? If not, I think you miscalculated Venus's Wimbledon 2008 scores because it was a big cakewalk.I calculated it to be 15. Besides you're giving too much for Grand Slam champions. If a player won a GS 10 years ago it doesn't mean they're as strong now. Same goes for former no. 1s.

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Re: Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

Ana.

Serena. Simona. Ana. Petra. Venus.
Clijsters, Henin, Dementieva, Davenport.
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Re: Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

I know it's not this century, but I wonder what Serena's '99 U.S. Open run would have looked like. She defeated Hingis, Davenport, and Seles (Hingis #1, Dav #2, and Seles #4).

I think she also beat Conchita who was a Top 20 player as well (and also a GS Champion).
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Re: Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

sharapova 2008 ao was much tougher than clijster's us open

similarly serena's ao 2005 was tough enough to be in top 5...
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sharapova 2008 ao was much tougher than clijster's us open

similarly serena's ao 2005 was tough enough to be in top 5...
Clijsters had to face proven slam winners while Sharapova only had newly returning Davenport and Henin(who played poorly btw). In the scope of this thread, it wasnt as tough. In comparison to recent slam draws, it was very tough.

Serena's draw was tough, but there were hardly any slam-worth opponents. Again, we're looking at things from the entire last 8 years.

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Do you add 10 and 12 respectively or together with each other if a player is also a GS champion and also a former world no.1? If not, I think you miscalculated Venus's Wimbledon 2008 scores because it was a big cakewalk.I calculated it to be 15. Besides you're giving too much for Grand Slam champions. If a player won a GS 10 years ago it doesn't mean they're as strong now. Same goes for former no. 1s.
Serena's worth at the 2008 Wimbledon totalled to 27 points, as she was ranked 6-10 (5 points), is a former no.1 (10 points) and is a grand slam champion (12 points)

hope that answers your question

also, I awarded so many points for beating a former World no.1 and a GS champ because IMO, players who have achieved this will always be tough opponents (if they weren't then they wouldn't have won a slam or reached No.1)...so I stand by my decision

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Serena's draw was tough, but there were hardly any slam-worth opponents. Again, we're looking at things from the entire last 8 years.
so you r saying davenport, sharapova, mauresmo were not slam-worth opponents? davenport had slams under her belt...sharapova was the defending wimbledon champion and mauresmo was red hot and had just got her career high of no.1 3 months ago
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so you r saying davenport, sharapova, mauresmo were not slam-worth opponents? davenport had slams under her belt...sharapova was the defending wimbledon champion and mauresmo was red hot and had just got her career high of no.1 3 months ago
Sorry, for some reason, I thought you said Serena's 2007 run.

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I know it's not this century, but I wonder what Serena's '99 U.S. Open run would have looked like. She defeated Hingis, Davenport, and Seles (Hingis #1, Dav #2, and Seles #4).

I think she also beat Conchita who was a Top 20 player as well (and also a GS Champion).
based on my system, Serena's 99 USO run would have totalled to 110 pts.

meaning it would be #1 by quite some distance

by the way, I miscalculated Serena's 05 Australian Open Run...her actual total was 75.5 points, not 65.5 points...I will edit the leaderboard now

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Re: Toughest Roads to GS Title this Century:

Maria 2008 I'd place a LITTLE higher, but other than that, interesting list.

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based on my system, Serena's 99 USO run would have totalled to 110 pts.

meaning it would be #1 by quite some distance
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^^ no it's just the list is compiled of 20th century slam runs

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Serena 2 in the top 5 and 4 in the top 15

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somebody make the Ana-formula and to boost her away from last place please!!!!!!

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