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What grip do Venus and Serena use?

on wikipedia it says Serena uses a open stance but my coach(who was a pro player before) says a closed stance is better but Serena won 8 slams with her open stance so something must be working can you be good with a open stance forehand?

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The open stance forehand can give someone more power and allows one to recover quicker. If your coach says he closed stance is better than it is just his personal preference. Anyways, I think Serena uses a semi-western but I am not sure.
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So many player use open stance. Closed stance is good cause you get really good shoulder rotation.

I know Sharapova plays closed stance on both sides.

Open stance is good to use cause you can get into position for the next shot almost immediately. I'm not sure of the otehr benefits, but I play open stance forehand (lefty) and most of the time open on backhand, but can do both closed and open.

As for grip, I was always under the intention that they've used Semi-Western. But that's been asked so many times on this board and no one really knows!

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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

Your coach must be old fashioned! IMO an open stance, in todays game is better.

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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

he is old fashioned

So confused about what he says though

I been playing tennis for years now and I was hoping to play college soon and hes telling me I need to use a closed stance forehand and turn my body more but it takes a while to set up

I dont really know what to do I still want him as my coach but closed stance is really hard for me...but maybe hes right he said closed stance has more consistency for more topspin maybe open stance is good for womens game?

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my game is so messed up right now I need to find a stroke that works I've been changing my game up so much that I have no confidence

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my game is so messed up right now I need to find a stroke that works I've been changing my game up so much that I have no confidence
Same with me . If I were you, I would use the closed stance on some shots where it is appropriate and the open stance on all the other ones .
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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

Most/All modern pros use open stance on the forehand now. The only player I can think of who uses closed stance is Davenport and she's not exactly a modern pro.

Whatever you do, do what's most comfortable for you but I strongly advise getting a coach who will get you to learn open stance. Closed stance is good but if you come up against someone who has a good open stance forehand they'll just be hitting it harder than you.

Only last year I completely changed my forehand from closed to open stance and after a long frustrating period of totally changing around my footwork patterns, I feel much better now with open stance. But only change it if you're commited to it otherwise you'll just be confused between the two.
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Hingis has an open stance forehand and look where it's taken her, and she's one of the best all-court player of all time. she's been criticized about this in the past aside from her serve.
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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

Depends on the situation.

E.g. If you were being stretched out wide, you're not going to bother with a closed stance becuase you just don't have that time.

But if you were going up to the net, a closed stance might be better.

The Williams sisters are really quite unconventional, and you won't find their strokes in the textbooks. But their strokes have worked marvellously for them over the years e.g. their open stance backhand (unlike Maria/Davenport/Evert) has been incredibly consistent and they rarely break down.

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What grip do Venus and Serena use?

on wikipedia it says Serena uses a open stance but my coach(who was a pro player before) says a closed stance is better but Serena won 8 slams with her open stance so something must be working can you be good with a open stance forehand?
A slightly over-cooked semi-western for Serena. Vee's looks to be a little closer to a true western.

As for the stance, it's good to have both. Venus tends to hit all her backhands opened stance while Serena closes it to agassi proportions now then. At least that's been my observation. The coach I used to work with HATED the open stance backhand, but then again he hated most things about women's tennis- where the open stance is most often used.

Anyhoo, the OS does get you ready to hit the next ball quicker, but you have to have strength to give as good as you get with it, and you have to work harder to get to those shots that stretch you out wide (which is why it's good to a have both. Those are my thoughts, at least. YMMV .

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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

Serena and Venus are not your typical 'textbook' taught tennis players. They are phenominal athletes who just happens to play tennis. And I say this because Serena and Venus could play other sports and be successful at it as well. Just like Bo Derek and Dionne Sanders who were athletes who just happened to play football and baseball.


Serena and Venus are super girls. That was very evident when they were playing doubles against Raymond/Stousour.


These other coaches and players, and tennis academies continue to study the Williamses and have adapted their games just like theirs just to be able to compete with them.
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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

the open stance relies more on rotation of the body rather than stepping into the shot, its great for topspin and recovery time is improved with this stance. although when finishing a point of near the net with the backhand or forehand a closed stance is better to use in that situation, when stretched out wide open stance is also favoured.

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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

I was reading tennis magzine. It was showing serena open stancew forehand. You know the step by step thing.
But anyways she and venus uses a Semi-Western
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Re: Question's about Venus and Serena

maybe this will help.
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