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Hype vs. Real Deal

In the last few years we have seen many new young players being hyped as the next star. Most turned out to be a bust. Only a few made it to the top. Here's my assessment:

Hypes:

Karolina Sprem
Anna-Lena Groenefeld
Tatiana Golovin
Nicole Vaidisova
Sesil Karatantcheva

Real deal:

Maria Sharapova
Jelena Jankovic
Ana Ivanovic

Let's wait to see how the current hypes will turn out to be. I am betting on Vika Azarenka and Agnes Szavay to succeed, and the rest to fail.
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I'm betting on Vika to fail, Agi, Aga and Caro to succeed, Alize and Domi to stay in Top 20, the others with drop like stones.

And honestly I'm expecting Larcher de Brito to fail, sorry. The pressure will get to her. And once others figure out her ballbashing game she will fade away like Nicole.

Tati wasn't overhyped; she just got way too many injuries.

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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

IMO it's way too early to write off players who aren't even old enough to legally drink. Players develop at different rates. Four years ago, Jankovic didn't seem like she was destined for the top 3, but here she is, at 23.

Vaidisova and Golovin, in particular, have loads of talent, but for whatever reason, haven't yet realized it. They still have time.

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I'm betting on Vika to fail, Agi, Aga and Caro to succeed, Alize and Domi to stay in Top 20, the others with drop like stones.
Vika has both power and finnesse and is still improving. She has also learned to control her tempo. All signs point to positive to me. I agree with you on Agi, who has a nearly complete game except her inexperience at net.

Radwanska will not go to the top due to her lack of power. The days of Hingis type of player are long gone. Even a healthy Hingis herself couldn't make it back to top 8. Wozniacki, Alize Cornet, and Cibulkova are all solidly above average but nothing spectacular. I like them but they will not be superstars.

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And honestly I'm expecting Larcher de Brito to fail, sorry. The pressure will get to her. And once others figure out her ballbashing game she will fade away like Nicole.
Very true. At this point I would put Larcher de Brito's potential at the level of Karolina Sprem when she was healthy. Cool ballbashing yes. Complete game no. But of course she can grow in the future.
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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

I dont see how Sesil can even be on the list when she was banned for like 2 years or something and is justing coming back this year. Golovin gets injured every year so thats her problem. This is Nicole first bad year and people are already calling her hype when she has proved that she has alot of talent.
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4 out of those 5 have reached top 20, that's pretty good, and karatancheva had that incident so.. hasn't been all 'hype'

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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

Let's take a look at your hypes:

Tatiana Golovin
Age: 20
Career high rank: 12

So she hasn't played a healthy clay-grass court season without injury since 2004, when she was 16. She ended up getting injured in the events after Wimbledon then, too. Even with a half-schedule due to a severe ankle injury, she still ended the year 13 in 2007 and reached a career high of 12 while injured. She's still very young and if she can stay healthy, could achieve a lot as she's very talented. She didn't recieve Newcomer of the Year for nothing.

Nicole Vaidisova
Age: 19
Career high rank: 7

At the age of 17, she reached the SF at Roland Garros and the Australian and has since then fallen into a bit of a slump due to various issues. She still hasn't even turned 20 so I would expect her to rebound and achieve much, when she gains her interest back.

Karolina Sprem
Age: 23
Career High Rank: 17

Since reaching the Wimbledon QF at 19, K-Lina had a tough sophomore slump and then was met with a few serious injuries. She's obviously talented, but her progress was stopped immediately with these setbacks. I'm not really sure what's in her future, but you can never count her out and she's still young.


Sesil Karatantcheva
Age: 18
Career High Rank: 35

Well, we all know Sesil's story. A QF at Roland Garros and she showed much progress, at 17, ending the year at 35 and she looked destined for a great future in tennis before her ban. Now that she's back, still very young, I think she could do a lot when her form starts to kick in. Her rank has already climbed very high from unranked-213, and now she's in the Wimbledon QD.

Anna-Lena Groenefeld
Age: 23
Career High Rank: 14

I remember Anna-Lena being the huge prospect in 2005, when she reached 14 at age 20. Most people were expecting her to be the next big thing as she was accumulating a few major scalps and consistently going far in draws. Then she met Rafael and everything went downhill. She's starting to show signs of a true comeback and gain of form but I don't know if I could see her making a top-twenty return, but who really knows? She's capable of it, as we know.

You also put Jankovic as one of your "Real Deals." Well, she's just now reached #2 in the world, at 23, and none of these ladies are older that, and three of them are much younger. Jelena started 2006, at 21, with an awful streak losing 10 1R matches straight and looking like more of a "hype" than any of these ladies and look what she did with her year and her career!

I definitely don't think it's fair to count out any of them, with most being so young and several struggling injuries and etc. that has held them back. I honestly believe a couple of them will have great careers.

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Tati is not overhyped she's overinjured
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Agreed with most. I think Agnes and Caro definitely have great shots at making it far. I do like Aga's game, but her lack of power and of a serve will be her undoing (Hingis days are gone )

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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

Hypes:

Anna Chakvetadze
Tatiana Golovin
Nicole Vaidisova


Real deal:

Jelena Jankovic
Ana Ivanovic
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IMO it's way too early to write off players who aren't even old enough to legally drink. Players develop at different rates. Four years ago, Jankovic didn't seem like she was destined for the top 3, but here she is, at 23.
Vaidisova and Golovin, in particular, have loads of talent, but for whatever reason, haven't yet realized it. They still have time.
I couldn't agree more. Players develop at different pace and early bloomer doesn't have to be better than the late one. Also careers never are straight lines upwards. It is more like with mauntain climbing, sometimes you go up, sometimes down to get better footing and sometimes you stop and rest. You can't write off anyone at any age especially in early twenties. On the other hand if you see talent deficiencies it is another story, however many "specialists" were wrong on this subject, too.

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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

Hypes:
Karatancheva

Real deal:
Tati
Nicole

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dellaqua has done good since her austrailian open run. she has been a consistance rising star.

Jelena Jankovic
- She used to know how to play tennis...
Jumping over career opportunities since 2006...
As her fans watch in awe at her ability to fuck that up...

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It's hard to say that Nicole, Tati, and Sesil are only hypes along with a lot of other up and comers. By looking at the list, it seems like Jankovic would have been on the hype list until last because good results didnt come for a few years into her career. It's hard to put a definate hype or real deal on some players when they are still young.

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Re: Hype vs. Real Deal

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I'm betting on Vika to fail, Agi, Aga and Caro to succeed, Alize and Domi to stay in Top 20, the others with drop like stones.

And honestly I'm expecting Larcher de Brito to fail, sorry. The pressure will get to her. And once others figure out her ballbashing game she will fade away like Nicole.

Tati wasn't overhyped; she just got way too many injuries.
Well for someone who made the fourth round at the Australian Open as a 16 year old, I think it's fair to say she has been overhyped...it took her another three years on tour to win her first title...
And sure she has had her injuries, but so have a lot of other players, maybe not so many, but still, look at the Williamses for instance

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