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A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Well, since Ana/Maria is all the rage right now and the expected arch rivalry over the next few years, heres what I think as someone who is a huge huge fan of Venus, Lindsay and Jelena, but likes Ana and has respect for both Ana and Maria as players....

Maria has obviously been much more successful over the last 4 years, as her game has been much more of a well oiled, refined machine. Ana has had a much more erratic game, however in my opinion, she has a bigger game than Maria and bigger weapons, and her game has the potential to reach a higher level than Maria's, however, her game has only become refined in the same sense more recently, but I think if she can consistently produce close to her best level the way Maria has been able to do, she will be the more dominant player over the next 5 years.

When both players are playing their best, there is more scope to expose Maria's weaknesses and beat her - although Maria is probably able to produce her best more consistently than Ana. If Ana can produce her best as consistently as Maria does however, she will be the more dominant player.
Kinda like Davenport and Hingis in 1998 - you knew that Hingis wuld always play at a high level, but if Lindsay played to her best then she was the better player - it just depended on whether she would or not - and when she did, it was obviously who was the best player in the world.

All this being said, when Venus and Serena produce their best (which is becoming rare admittedly), they are still better than anyone!
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

You're joking. Maria at her best would blast Ivanovic off the court. Those flat, deep shots are exactly what Ivanovic can't handle.

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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

On clay Ana is better...on hard and grass Maria imo.
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Maria >>>>>>>>>> Ana, except clay




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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Yes, Ana is more inconsistent than Sharapova, who usually brings her best to the court.

Here's the breakdown:

First Serve: Ana can serve a little harder, but they are roughly equal here. (=)

Second Serve: Maria when she's not having nerves/shoulder problems (Maria)

Forehand: (Ana)

Backhand: (Maria)

Speed/Movement: (Ana)

Volleys: (Ana)

Variety: (Ana, though Maria has been working on a nice dropshot lately)

Mental toughness: (Maria, though Ana has improved)

Consistency: (Maria, though Ana has improved)


Really, if Ana plays well, she should be able to beat Maria.
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

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Yes, Ana is more inconsistent than Sharapova, who usually brings her best to the court.

Here's the breakdown:

First Serve: Ana can serve a little harder, but they are roughly equal here. (=)

Second Serve: Maria when she's not having nerves/shoulder problems (Maria)

Forehand: (Ana)

Backhand: (Maria)

Speed/Movement: (Ana)

Volleys: (Ana)

Variety: (Ana, though Maria has been working on a nice dropshot lately)

Mental toughness: (Maria, though Ana has improved)

Consistency: (Maria, though Ana has improved)


Really, if Ana plays well, she should be able to beat Maria.
I agree. The only thing that Sharapova had over Ana was experience to win in the big slam matches. But Ana has that now and the confidence that comes with it. I would not be surprised at all the next time Maria & Ana met that Ana is the victor.

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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

The new situation of Ana being world #1 and a GS champion makes it hard to assess where she is going to stand in the future, as far as game mastery is concerned.
As a Maria big fan, my opinion is likely biased, but I have the feeling, based on their match-up history, that Maria is still the favorite against Ana (except on clay).
I don't think comparing them shot by shot is helping a lot to predict how the rivalry will turn in the long run, I do agree that Ana is technically better than Maria, but Maria's game is the kind that's consistently gonna give a lot of trouble to Ana, Masha's pace doesn't allow Ana to develop her game that is based on powerful accelerations on high rebounding top-spin groundstrokes.
In their two last encounters, Maria was totally in control and won easily, you could feel Ana had no solution to turn things around. Currently, I don't see yet that Ana has added something new to her game to change that situation. When both of them are at top form, I still put my money on Maria.
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Maria has honed that power game so well.

Ana still has miles to go before she is as refined.

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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Ana can't do anything against Maria on hardcourts, Maria's game is too speed for Ana, Maria hits harder and earlier, sh has better shots, so far. She can find angles than Ana can't, with her backhand and her forehand. Ana can't play her game when she faces Maria, did you see her 2 previous meetings Ana was lost, she tried to play at same speed as Maria what she can't do.
Ana will never be better than Maria, deal with it.
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Ana can't do anything against Maria on hardcourts, Maria's game is too speed for Ana, Maria hits harder and earlier, sh has better shots, so far. She can find angles than Ana can't, with her backhand and her forehand. Ana can't play her game when she faces Maria, did you see her 2 previous meetings Ana was lost, she tried to play at same speed as Maria what she can't do.
Ana will never be better than Maria, deal with it.
I disagree on that! At the YEC Ana simply ran out of gas and Maria had rested a lot but worked her ass off during that time. In Australia Maria played her best tennis in years! Still Ana was close but it were her nerves that let her down! Still she came pretty close.
Maria already proved herself on Grass and Hardcourts but I have no doubt that Ana will do the same this year or in 2009. Thus far Maria was the favourite in there meetings but that is likely to change now that Ana has won a GS and got that tremendous boost of confidence!
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In Australia Maria played her best tennis in years!
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Still Ana was close but it were her nerves that let her down! Still she came pretty close.
Quite not, and her nerves were okay, she just got outplayed. It was rather Masha who was a bit nervous during the first set. During the second, Ana was lost on the court.
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

I Think That Ana Will Be A Better Player Than Maria Cos She Has More Variety

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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

This rivalry is made up IMO. Maria's way superior to Ana but on clay where Ana's actually the favorite.
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

I would say we just have to wait and see! Maybe we'll get a wimby, olympics or US Open final between the two of them. I'm actually curious to see how Ana's game will fit the faster courts this year and how Maria will do when not being hold back by this goddamn shoulder injurie of hers!
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Re: A simple observation on how Ana/Maria's game stack up.......

Mria hits the ball flatter then Ana, her backhand is better , her drive volleys are amazing, i think Maria s forehad is improved a lot and mentally tougher.. I think on clay Ana would win because The only minus is Maria s movement (but also improved) on hardcourt Maria willoutplay Ana look at the YEC 2007 Ana had no chance.
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