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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old Jun 7th, 2008, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

Now I'm not looking for this thread to turn into some troll hater fest so let's leave that crap at the door right now. I'm asking an honest question and I'd like to get some real answers.

As a fan, tennis player, etc. do you think Maria's ball toss is way too high? Does it lead to erratic serves? Does it make her serve easier to read?

I understand she is tall and generates a lot of power, but it just seems her consistency hinges on the quality of her ball toss. Serena for example has a quick, low ball toss, but she accelerates through tha ball so well generating a lot of power. Since she's been doing it her whole life is it sort of too late to make an adjustment?

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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

Yeah. She certainly needs to work on her toss. The serve motion itself is pretty nice, but the toss is too high and her serve can be damaged buy the wind/sun or any other bad conditions.

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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

And also I'd like to get some insite from non Maria fans. As a tennis fan, all hate aside what do you honestly think. Pretend her ball toss was your favs, would you wish on her to change it?
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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

Yes. Way too high which means a lot of DFs when she is off.

Actually many of the WTA players have no idea how to toss properly.

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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

Well, when i do a high ball toss it is for these reasons:

1. im tall (lol)
2. the ball gets more spin on it as it comes down
3. If you throw it and it isnt high enough, you have to hit it when it is low, which reduces the chances of the serve going in.

however, maria does a high ball toes all the time. it can be a bit dangerous imo. she needs to vary it up - but that can be said about her entire game.

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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

It's inconsistent. Graf had a high toss, but never had big problems. Lendl had a big toss, never had problems. Maria just needs to spend more time putting the ball in the same place when she tosses and she'll be fine. But nobody can rely on a toss that's way out in front one time and behind her the next. That's just not going to work.

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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

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And also I'd like to get some insite from non Maria fans. As a tennis fan, all hate aside what do you honestly think. Pretend her ball toss was your favs, would you wish on her to change it?

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Agreed. But you know why he couldn't post it in the player forums. Vast majority of people there don't know anything about tennis, all that goes on in there is gossip and links to XXX rated Maria pics.
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Re: Is Maria's Ball Toss Too High?

I think it is too high. It could pose problems for Maria when she is playing tight. Also, when it's very windy or if the sun is directly above her, it could be very hard to hit a good delivery.

However, lowering her ball toss means altering her service action. I don't think she would be doing something that drastic.

Steffi Graf had an equally high if not higher ball toss, but she made it work. I'm sure Maria can do it as well.

I actually think Ivanovic has a worse problem because when she's tense, her ball toss tends to go further on the right (a la Capriati), making her chase for the ball.
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But really. I really think she needs to work on that. especially now that Wimbledon is coming around . The conditions are going to be unpredictable and she relies on her serve so much for it to be shaky.

She needs advise from someone like Serena who has great serving motion

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i don't care if Maria fans wanna come in WS threads and say that, then i'll be just as rude and do the same.
This thread wasn't created by that annoying poster who comes in WS threads and says that, right? Then why be so rude to the poster who has nothing to do with and wants a honest opinion about a certain component of tennis?
It's not even Maria-love thread or Maria-hate thread.

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But really. I really think she needs to work on that. especially now that Wimbledon is coming around . The conditions are going to be unpredictable and she relies on her serve so much for it to be shaky.

She needs advise from someone like Serena who has great serving motion
Ohh I wish she had Serena's serve motion
Or at least get her 2004-early 2005 serve back

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