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WTA Triangles (Bizzare H3H)

Today in Amelia will be played SF between Sharapova and Davenport, and i notice very interesting "triangle" between Ameli*, Maria and Lindsay:

Sharapova vs Davenport: Sharapova lead 5-1
Davenport vs Mauresmo: Davenport lead 12-4
Mauresmo vs Sharapova: Mauresmo lead 3-1



So experience player like Davenport with so many matches of course must to have many interesting stats including some of this bizzare triangles and my favorite in her career case is that where also all three is slam champions:

Seles vs Sabatini: Seles lead 11-3
Sabatini vs Davenport: Sabatini lead 7-3
Davenport vs Seles: Davenport lead 10-3



But many of young players is also already involved in some of this triangles, for example my fav player 20yo Ana already played 8 matches vs 20yo Tatiana:

Ivanovic vs Golovin: Ivanovic lead 6-2
Golovin vs V.Williams: Golovin lead 2-0
V.Williams vs Ivanovic: V.Williams lead 4-1



Actualy three of my fav 5 players is involved in this type of H3H:

Ivanovic vs Jankovic: Ivanovic lead 5-1
Jankovic vs Dementieva: Jankovic lead 4-2
Dementieva vs Ivanovic: Dementieva lead 3-0



Jankovic is always very thankfull player for some bizzare stats and facts so she not disappoitment us in this wierd triangles:

Jankovic vs A.Bondarenko: Jankovic lead 7-0
A.Bondarenko vs Mauresmo: A.Bondarenko lead 2-0
Mauresmo vs Jankovic: Mauresmo lead 5-1


or

Jankovic vs Petrova: Jankovic lead 4-2
Petrova vs Na Li: Petrova lead 4-0
Na Li vs Jankovic: Na Li lead 4-1


...etc


So give some yours example of this strange WTA triangles or try to give some logical (or bizzare) explanation of some of examples which is already presented in this thread.

BTW... h2h results like 3-2 or 8-6 is more "tied" than "lead" and 1-0 h2h results is not relevant for anything so please escape H3H triangles with some of not so clean lead.



Threads Most Impressive (Most Bizzare) H3H triangles will be added here:
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Sharapova vs Davenport: Sharapova lead 5-1
Davenport vs Mauresmo: Davenport lead 12-4
Mauresmo vs Sharapova: Mauresmo lead 3-1


Seles vs Sabatini: Seles lead 11-3
Sabatini vs Davenport: Sabatini lead 7-3
Davenport vs Seles: Davenport lead 10-3


Ivanovic vs Golovin: Ivanovic lead 6-2
Golovin vs V.Williams: Golovin lead 2-0
V.Williams vs Ivanovic: V.Williams lead 4-1


Ivanovic vs Jankovic: Ivanovic lead 5-1
Jankovic vs Dementieva: Jankovic lead 4-2
Dementieva vs Ivanovic: Dementieva lead 3-0


Jankovic vs A.Bondarenko: Jankovic lead 7-0
A.Bondarenko vs Mauresmo: A.Bondarenko lead 2-0
Mauresmo vs Jankovic: Mauresmo lead 5-1


Jankovic vs Petrova: Jankovic lead 4-2
Petrova vs Na Li: Petrova lead 4-0
Na Li vs Jankovic: Na Li lead 4-1


Šprem - Likhovtesva 4-0
Likhovtesva - Suarez 4-2
Suarez - Šprem 4-0


Roesch - Dementieva 3-1
Benesova - Roesch 5-0
Dementieva - Benesova 3-0


Golovin-Kuznetsova 3:1
Zvonareva-Golovin 2:0
Kuznetsova-Zvonareva 7:3


Golovin-Petrova 5:1
Vaidisova-Golovin 3:1
Petrova-Vaidisova 3:1


Hantuchova-Dokic 3:1
Dementieva-Hantuchova 9:3
Dokic-Dementieva 5:3


ASV vs Davenport: Sanchez-Vicario lead 7-5
Davenport vs Dechy: Davenport lead 8-0
Dechy vs ASV: Dechy lead 4-0


Chaky owns Nadia 4-0
Nadia owns Dina 5-0
Dina leads Anna 3-2


Zvonareva vs Schiavone: Zvonareva lead 6-0
Schiavone vs Petrova: Schiavone lead 4-1
Petrova vs Zvonareva: Petrova lead 4-1


Martinez vs Husarova 3-0
Husarova vs ASV 3-0
ASV vs Martinez 15-4


Novotna vs Martinez 4-1
Navratilova vs Novotna 6-1
Martinez vs Navratilova 4-1


Sukova vs Frazier 3-0
Frazier vs Shriver 4-1
Shriver vs Sukova 9-3


M.J.Fernandez outclassed Zvereva(5-0), Paulus(4-0), Majoli(4-1) and Apelmans(4-1)... 17-2 overall
Zvereva(5-2), Paulus(4-1), Majoli(3-0) and Apelmans(5-2) outclassed Irina Spirlea... 17-5 overall
Irina Spirlea vs M.J.Fernandez 4-0

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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Re: WTA Triangles (Bizzare H3H)

No. Different players match up well/not so well against other players. Nothing bizarre about that.
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No. Different players match up well/not so well against other players. Nothing bizarre about that.
Situations like this:
Player A have impressive H2H vs player B.
Player B have impressive H2H vs player C.
Player C have impressive H2H vs player A.

is actualy very unusual in any sport and tennis is not exception.
But we have some examples (including couple realy extreme bizzare) and that is subject of this thread.

Some tennis triangles have actualy easy explanations but some is realy big mistery... For example if Federer lead against Hewitt 13-5, Hewitt lead 6-0 against Kafelnikov and Kafelnikov lead 4-1 against Federer explanation is simple. Roger face with Russian when he is too young and on other hand Hewitt played his best tennis when he is very young. After Kafelnikov retirement Roger improve so much that he simple outclassed Lleyton... but most of triangles is not so easy to be explained by logic or circumstances.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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There is a statistic forum you know, where you can put these "statistic" threads of yours.


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Re: WTA Triangles (Bizzare H3H)

Golovin-Kuznetsova 3:1
Zvonareva-Golovin 2:0
Kuznetsova-Zvonareva 7:3

Golovin-Petrova 5:1
Vaidisova-Golovin 3:1
Petrova-Vaidisova 3:1

Hantuchova-Dokic 3:1
Dementieva-Hantuchova 9:3
Dokic-Dementieva 5:3

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Re: WTA Triangles (Bizzare H3H)

Pratt leads Kirilenko 3-0
Kirilenko lead Safarova/Dulko/Azarenka 3-0
Dulko/Safarova/Azarenka lead Pratt 1-0



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Bondarenko is Jelena's bitch

Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
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Roesch - Dementieva 3-1
Benesova - Roesch 5-0
Dementieva - Benesova 3-0
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Roesch - Dementieva 3-1
Benesova - Roesch 5-0
Dementieva - Benesova 3-0
Who the F is Roesch?

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Who the F is Roesch?
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^ She had a good 2007 though. She's on her way up. She went from almost 400 to 195ish.


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Šprem - Likhovtesva 4-0
Likhovtesva - Suarez 4-2
Suarez - Šprem 4-0

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Zvonareva vs Schiavone: Zvonareva lead 6-0
Schiavone vs Petrova: Schiavone lead 4-1
Petrova vs Zvonareva: Petrova lead 4-1

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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^ She had a good 2007 though. She's on her way up. She went from almost 400 to 195ish.
She was on a good way, but wasted in 2007 also a lot. I mean: She lead 5-1 vs. Bammer in Berlin or also similar cases.
She just sometimes is then like "It is all too easy, I don't give a damn anymore." Then she goes mad and crazy on court and then her concentration goes totally off

The mentally problem went all over her career, that's sad. She was on a very good way 2002/2003. I like her game a lot, she is very talented.
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Tennis is not transitive. Period.
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