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OG/08 race to Beijing - RUS, USA, FRA & ITA checkpoint after 2/3 of Olympic race

In Beijing 2008 will play 56 best ranked players (+8WC) after Roland Garros 2008 with maximum 4 players from same country limit. That means all tournaments after RG/07 will be count for players rating that day. If we look at current WTA list only 4 country (Russia, USA, France and Italy) have atleast 5 players in TOP70 right now, so that means only in this 4 case "Maximum 4 per country" rule is important. Here is my calculations of current "national" standings for all of this 4 countries. I count only points from tournaments after RG/07 and not count 1pts loses in 1st rounds (except in Wim/07, USO/07 and AO/08 mandatory cases) so you have clear status how many empty space this players have in theys "best 17" record:


RUSSIA
Code:
Maria Sharapova (RUS)         2945 (9)
Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS)     2230 (11)
Anna Chakvetadze (RUS)        2130 (11)
Elena Dementieva (RUS)        1480 (11)
Nadia*Petrova*(RUS)            980 (8)
Vera*Zvonareva*(RUS)           917 (10)
Dinara*Safina*(RUS)            862 (12)
Maria*Kirilenko*(RUS)          795 (10)

USA
Code:
Venus Williams (USA)         2040 (7)
Serena Williams (USA)        1160 (6)
Lindsay Davenport (USA)       605 (5)
Meghann Shaughnessy (USA)     327 (8)
Ashley*Harkleroad*(USA)       324 (13)
Julie*Ditty*(USA)             298 (15)
Laura*Granville*(USA)         272 (6)
Lilia*Osterloh*(USA)          269 (15)
Meilen*Tu*(USA)               245 (9)
Jill*Craybas*(USA)            244 (10)

FRANCE
Code:
Marion Bartoli (FRA)         2002 (15)
Tatiana Golovin (FRA)        1147 (11)
Virginie Razzano (FRA)        944 (15)
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)         655 (7)
Pauline*Parmentier*(FRA)      461 (10)
Alize*Cornet*(FRA)            421 (9)
Aravane*Rezai*(FRA)           419 (8)
Camille*Pin*(FRA)             326 (13)
Nathalie*Dechy*(FRA)          271 (13)
Emilie*Loit*(FRA)             261 (10)

ITALY
Code:
Francesca Schiavone (ITA)    870 (13)
Flavia Pennetta (ITA)        842 (16)
Karin Knapp (ITA)            578 (15)
Sara Errani (ITA)            315 (10)
Maria*Elena*Camerin*(ITA)    217 (7)
Tathiana*Garbin*(ITA)        212 (6)
Mara*Santangelo*(ITA)        212 (5)

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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Great thread
I think for Italian players the situation will not change for May
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Vee and Ree should both be safe then

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I guess that means Sharapova should be safe for qualification

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Remember there is the Fed Cup rule.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Bartoli hasnt played, so she cant play Olympics?
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Will there be Qualies at the Olympics?
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Ashley Harkleroad should be on there somewhere. I believe she has more than 300 points since RG 07.

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Remember there is the Fed Cup rule.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Bartoli hasnt played, so she cant play Olympics?
She dont need to play any match for France if she atleast twice make herself "available". I know after last Wimbeldon final her FED CUP status is "injuried, but available"... so i perhaps she do it that one more time.
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Ashley Harkleroad should be on there somewhere. I believe she has more than 300 points since RG 07.
Thanks for alert. I probably delete her when bolded current US TOP4. Ashley current "Olympic" case is maybe most interesting here b/c she is right now on edge at both rankings - WTA official (64 womans will play in Beijing) and USA national (maximum 4 will play).

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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i realy hope anna chaketadze makes it, 1. it will be a great experience for her and 2. she has put together some amazing results in the last 2 years and claimed 8 titles (including fed cup) in the last 16 months.

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Re: OG/08 race to Beijing - RUS, USA, FRA & ITA checkpoint after 2/3 of Olympic race

Good thread.

I have 2 questions though:

1. Who decides the 8 wildcards? Are they given to countries with no players in the top 56 (e.g. Cara Black for Zimbabwe)?

2. Is this thread just about singles? Surely Mara Santangelo, having won the French Open last year, should be able to play doubles in Beijing?
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i realy hope anna chaketadze makes it, 1. it will be a great experience for her and 2. she has put together some amazing results in the last 2 years and claimed 8 titles (including fed cup) in the last 16 months.
Only about 100 days before Olympic Ranks deadline she have 650 points more than Dementieva and 1150 pts more than Petrova...etc... so its hard to belive right now that except Maria and Sveta any other Russian player will overtake her before june - especialy i dont see TWO other Russians to overtake her in same time. If she stay healthy, she will play in Beijing for sure.

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Good thread.

I have 2 questions though:

1. Who decides the 8 wildcards? Are they given to countries with no players in the top 56 (e.g. Cara Black for Zimbabwe)?

2. Is this thread just about singles? Surely Mara Santangelo, having won the French Open last year, should be able to play doubles in Beijing?
56 best ranked means actualy TOP70 without about 15 girls which will withdraw (injury, "max4 from each country rule", players which dont want to play like Srebotnik for example... etc...), and also some of them maybe will be with "protected" not with real TOP56 ranking. For this 8WC's ranking will be also very important but not mandatory. For example currently is only Na Li TOP56 player from China, but i'm sure that in MD at end will be 4 players from China no mater how many of them qualify by her own ranking. Also players which representing countries without any other tennis represent (especialy from countries with short Olympic list) like for example Estonian Kanepi, Uzbekistanian Amanmuradova, Kremer from Luxembourg, Sequera from Venezuela, Tanasugarn from Thailand, Castano from Columbia...etc... chances is always better to reach WC. I think officialy ITF make deccission who will get WCs, but theys is always open from suggestions from WTA, IOC or OG organizers (China in this case). And yes, this thread is all about singles. All countries have right on two new extra players in doubles. For example if in singles Russia will be represent by Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Chakvetadze and Dementieva, and in doubles Kuznetsova/Petrova and Dementieva/Vesnina - that mean Russia use that right for two extra players for doubles (Petrova and Vesnina in this case).

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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The home nation is allowed 4 players in the Main Draw, I read somewhere. China will take 3 of those WCs almost automatically. Peng and Yan could be within this rank deadline, though.
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Here is to Julie getting that 4th spot! !!

But I think Ash will get it but come on Julie.
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The Fed Cup is merely "making yourself available for selection". Not necessarily playing.

I really like this thread, Cp6uja. Finally something useful!
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56 best ranked means actualy TOP70 without about 15 girls which will withdraw (injury, "max4 from each country rule", players which dont want to play like Srebotnik for example... etc...), and also some of them maybe will be with "protected" not with real TOP56 ranking. For this 8WC's ranking will be also very important but not mandatory. For example currently is only Na Li TOP56 player from China, but i'm sure that in MD at end will be 4 players from China no mater how many of them qualify by her own ranking. Also players which representing countries without any other tennis represent (especialy from countries with short Olympic list) like for example Estonian Kanepi, Uzbekistanian Amanmuradova, Kremer from Luxembourg, Sequera from Venezuela, Tanasugarn from Thailand, Castano from Columbia...etc... chances is always better to reach WC. I think officialy ITF make deccission who will get WCs, but theys is always open from suggestions from WTA, IOC or OG organizers (China in this case). And yes, this thread is all about singles.
That means there will be a lot of ballast in the draw. First 2 rounds out of 6 should be a cake for top players

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