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Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

These are the common points of Maria and Monica (pre-stabbing):

- initials: M.S.
- deep involvement of their fathers
- confidence and fierceness
- grunt
- groundstrokes penetrating to both angles
- passing shots that kill the volleyer even when hit on the run
- huge serve (Maria's better)
- huge return of serve
- fairly good retriever (Monica was better)

As much as I dislike Sharapova, I'm very scared at the moment that she could become as dominant as Monica was, even for a short period of time. Imagine her having a year winning more than 1 slam or the Olympics... WTA would become the Sharapova's bitch and I really hope it won't happen

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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

I see them as totally different players other than they both grunt and hit the ball hard.

Maria is closer to Lindsay in game style IMO.

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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

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These are the common points of Maria and Monica (pre-stabbing):

- initials: M.S.
- deep involvement of their fathers
- confidence and fierceness
- groundstrokes penetrating to both angles
- passing shots that kill the volleyer even when hit on the run
- huge serve (Maria's better)
- huge return of serve
- fairly good retriever (Monica was better)

As much as I dislike Sharapova, I'm very scared at the moment that she could become as dominant as Monica was, even for a short period of time. Imagine her having a year winning more than 1 slam or the Olympics... WTA would become the Sharapova's bitch and I really hope it won't happen
Another idiotic post from you... Sharapova is not monica, because when monica came along there was no "big babe tennis" if you will (stealing from mary jo).

Monica was the debut of big babe tennis, which once Davenport, Venus and Serena came along the flood gates opened....
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

I hope she'll apart of the stabing sure ,
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

Both are also well-known 'grunter'.
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

These comparisons are always tenuous.

First of all, Monica was more of a matchplayer. Other than Hingis, there has not been a player as tactically astute in women's tennis since Chris Evert.

Maria is in no way, shape or form a tactical player.

Monica's serve was never a major weapon. Maria's serve, when she's playing well, is the bedrock of her game.

Monica was far more consistent, and fought through so many tough matches against quality opposition. Maria has lost rather a lot of close matches to top five players at slams, which she could have won had she played well when it mattered.

The similarity is that both have a desire to win which overrides all else (and dare I say it, that they both grunt). But that's not enough to uphold the comparison.
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

^ I disagree. Monica's serve was a weapon. After her comeback, not so much.

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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

They scream on court.

The similarities end there.
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

right.and then,father's involvement is a normal thing in tennis so this can't be a similarity between them.above all because monica's father didn't have nothing in common with maria's father.

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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

Monica won 8 majors as a teen and was a dominant #1 when she was stabbed.

There's no comparison.

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right right right.so tremendous right.

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^ I disagree. Monica's serve was a weapon. After her comeback, not so much.

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What?!?!

How many of Monica's pre-stabbing matches have you watched?

If anything, the only area of her game that DID improve after the stabbing was her serve. Her serve was one of her main weapons in roughly 50% of her matches, a problem in others.

Before the stabbing, Monica's serve was just functional. It was not a weakness, but it was just a way of starting points. The one exception was her service in the 1993 Australian Open final, when she aced Steffi with 100mph plus serves at key moments (the mark of a champion, growing in confidence). We'll never know what that might have led to.

But pre-stabbing Monica's serve was feared by no one.
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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

I don't know how you compare a legendary tennis player to a girl who's able to win a slam every now and then.
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^ Her serve was always a powerful shot among an arsenal of powerful shots (return, forehand and backhand). They were all powerful. Did it compare to Schultz-McArthy? Of course not. But given the state of the serves in the women's game at the time it was always considered among the top.

The reason it was less of a weapon after her comeback was because the rest of the tour caught up with her power game during the time she was away.

At the time, Jennifer's serve was functional. Monica's was powerful. That was the difference in the two early power games where every shot was strong.

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Re: Sharapova: a new Monica Seles?

Monica Seles is one of the hardest hitters all time. Maria Sharapova can't create angles nearly as sharp as Monica. Only difference I see is height, grunt and the serve. Also Maria sharapova could barely return Venus' serve at wimbledon. IN a match against Serena in 2000 Monica pounced on it and created a really sharp angle to take the point.
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