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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old Jul 26th, 2002, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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Open letter to Williams haters

it was almost predictable, as soon as the williams sisters dominated tennis
the williams haters would go out of control. there are the usual, meaningless
criticisms of their supposed technical "flaws" - with the way that they are
winning i think that more players would like such flaws. then there are the
constant claims about how "boring" they are to watch, yet they grab huge
ratings and audiences to see them play - including many of the same williams
haters who come on this newsgroup to declare how "boring" they are to watch.
then they declare that the popularity of the williams sisters is limited
strictly to the united states. sure it is...and let's not forget the hints
that the williams sisters only got to #1/#2 because hingis and davenport were
injured, even though the williams sisters routinely beat both of these
players. yet, the same people said nothing when capriati got to #1, even
though she only got there because hingis got injured, and venus didn't play.

and, of course, there are the usual accusations that the williams sisters are
"arrogant" based upon incidents that purportedly happened years ago - while
capriati can sow discord in the fed cup team only to have the whole thing
seemingly forgotten within a week.

doesn't it seem odd timing that there are suddenly charges of widespread
steroid usage in tennis which happen to be focused on *women's* tennis?
john wertheim, in his latest column, called this whole thing for what it
really is: comments from people who are desparate to discredit the
achievements of the williams sisters:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ins...07/22/mailbag/

wertheim hinted, without saying directly, that the criticisms may be motivated
by racism, but the way that many, including people on this newsgroup, appear
to consistently search for reasons to criticise the williams sisters, makes
it hard *not* to suspect racism. many of the reasons offered are patently
ridiculous. the "explanation" that the criticisms have more to do with the
fans of the williams sisters than with the williams sisters themselves makes
no sense whatsoever.

i appreciate that people who win are always subject to detractors, but it
gets to the point where the nature of the criticism becomes so far fetched
that you begin to suspect that the criticisms are motivated by more than
just fact that the williams sisters are winning. has anyone *ever* seen
players being criticized for being too good? it's all just so unreal and,
i would say, fundamentally racist.

in the meantime, the williams haters will keep hating, and will keep hoping
that someone, some "savior", will come along and be able to defeat the
williams sisters. we've had henin offered for this role, completely over the
top predictions that hantuchova will be the tennis "messiah", and the current
hope is that somehow davenport will be able to get it done. ridiculous.

i give much credit to the williams sisters for putting up with this nonsense,
the repeated and unsubstantiated charges of "fixed" matches, with class and
dignity befitting the great tennis players that they truly are. i would say
that they are the most deserving champions that women's tennis has had in
many years.
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post #2 of 48 (permalink) Old Jul 26th, 2002, 04:54 PM
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Please don't pick on Daniela (Or anyone elses favs) because you're bitter. You're the 1st person I've ever seen call her a messiah.

Plus, all this whining will prolly only make the williams haters happy anyway.

DANIELA HANTUCHOVA = #1

Good luck Nathalie Dechy & Dinara Safina too!
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Not that i've seen any of the technique bashing on the board lately, if ever, but commentators have been talking about flaws in venus's serve for years and years. I, knowing not a lot about service actions apart from how nice and smooth they look, cannot comment.
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Good work junior. By childishly calling everyone who doesn't worship Venus and Serena haters, you're really making the situation better. Why don't you check out the meaning of strong words before you use them?

There was steroid rumours about the sisters several years ago. Nothing new. There's still constantly bashing of Hingis for things she did 2-3 years ago. Nothing new. Saying people have forgot about Jennifer's behaviour only shows what you choose to listen to.
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Wortheim's comments about apparent racism will be helpful to all fairminded fans. I like his admission that the sisters are held to a higher standard than any others who have played the game of tennis.
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if you guys think that your faves are the ones who get bashed the most, then you have no idea what your talking about because it only occurs when they lose or say something wrong...but when it comes to the williams they get bashed no matter what they do, when they win, when they lose, when they answer questions, and when they dont...even lindsay said so and i know you lindsay fans/williams haters were just dying when she said that...



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It happens to anyone that's dominating the game. The sanex messageboard was just roaming with Hingis haters.

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Funny, no one pays more attention to the "haters" and the "detractors" then *some* of their so called fans themselves

Its funny, because I like Venus, yet feel no need to pay this much attention to people who *don't* like her.

Some people don't like them because they just don't. Some people are racist bigots. Some people aren't.

Haven't I heard this record before?


If an admin reads this, I've always wanted permission to write an open letter to morons - can I?
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KC - you dont' understand do you

It is OKAY to hate people or European decent, because they have the "white skin advantage"

But if you make fun of anyone else, then you are a raging bigot

I don't make the rules, I just abide by then



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post #10 of 48 (permalink) Old Jul 26th, 2002, 05:34 PM
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You see, people are afraid of change. Change threatens their sense of continuity and thereby their comfort zone. No one likes to have their world view shattered into little pieces, so they go on the offensive. This is what the haters do, not only to venus and serena but to their forbearers as well.

Witness the treatment of Martina N. when she transformed herself into a tennis force to be reckoned with. Remember the attacks on steffi and monica when they burst onto the scene with booming baseline groundies. Can you forget the snide remarks and comments Martina H. received when she went on her tear of the tour in 97?

You see tennis like every other sport goes through an evolution from time to time. The aforementioned players took the game to new levels and now Venus and Serena are doing the same. Players of today will have to hit the gym regularly, the practice courts daily, hire a respectable coach and doggedly watch their waistlines if they want to compete. Whining like what Henin and Momo did after their wimbledon defeats serve nothing but to erode their own self belief. Instead of crying over someone who is better, one would think it would inspire you to get better and improve. Chanda said as much and so did Lindsay, and see how they have returned from injuries to try to claw their way back up the rankings?

Haters will be Haters, plain and simple. Anyone with common sense can distinguish between a criticism based on rumor, innuendo, lies, or jealousy and one that has its foundation based on justifiable reasons. When you are at the top, others will undeniably try to pull you down or attack you with slings and arrows and barbed comments.

Truly, it really is just laughable. You see if someone is working so hard to attack you it just shows how insecure they really are.

Anyway, the day will come when the next generation will rise to challenge Venus and Serena and surpass them, continuing the evolution of tennis. Right now there a little ten year old girl out there banging the ball and practicing her strokes but until she gets here I'll be happy to watch the Williams Sisters.

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Becca! Well said

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Rebecca what is "white skin advantage"? Actually, it seems a disadvantage considering the skin cancer factor.
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post #13 of 48 (permalink) Old Jul 26th, 2002, 05:47 PM
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What makes them more deserving then all the other champions we've had? Just because they have to deal with "match fixing" accusations and people saying Venus has a bad service motion? Everyone has to put up with criticism, not just Venus and Serena. There are people who hate them because they're black,etc. There are also people who "hate on them" just because they don't like them. Generalizing is stupid, you have no clue as to why people dislike either sister. This steroid crap didn't appear out of nowhere so people could accuse Venus abd Serena of taking them. They found positive tests at the French Open, and that would have happened whether or not Venus was at #1. WHY is it SO hard just to ignore these people and be HAPPY that your faves are #1 and #2?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Deira
Rebecca what is "white skin advantage"? Actually, it seems a disadvantage considering the skin cancer factor.
i think your talking about sunburn because everyone has equal susceptibility to skin cancer...
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Deira, I think Becca was being sarcastic lol

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