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Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

First of all, didn't they have the same training? Why is Venus's 2nd serve such a mess??

Why is Serena being stingy and not teaching her sister how to hit a kick serve? Or how to place her serve better?

Is it because Venus can hit her first serve harder and Serena is jealous and is like "bitch at least I don't average 6dfs a match lol"?
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First of all, didn't they have the same training? Why is Venus's 2nd serve such a mess??

Why is Serena being stingy and not teaching her sister how to hit a kick serve? Or how to place her serve better?

Is it because Venus can hit her first serve harder and Serena is jealous and is like "bitch at least I don't average 6dfs a match lol"?
I don't think stingy is the right word... although her second serve is by far not the greatest, its not the worst. She wouldn't win most matches against the top players if it was a complete mess. A lot of just has to do with confidence though. You have to be willing to gamble often.
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

They have different motions... different serves. Serena has perfect mechanics on her serve and since her motion and technique are great, the second serve comes easily.

venus's form is bad. She has a good first serve but it's not dependable and it can break down easily. When you don't have correct form and you've been using it for 20 years, it's really difficult to change.

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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

I believe Serena called Venus' first serves "lucky"
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

Serena believes that she and her sister are number one and two in the world, and probably thinks that Venus' game doesn't need twitching.

Serena. Simona. Ana. Petra. Venus.
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

Why would you give one of your most difficult opponents tips?

Really, don't even look at me...
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

Serena got outside help with her serve, because I believe they were originally taught the same motion. That said, Venus has been quoted as saying that her second serve (and forehand, no less) were the biggest things she had to improve...when she was 10.

Neither have become consistently steady and that doesn't bode well for an overhaul at this stage in her career.
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

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Why would you give one of your most difficult opponents tips?
Don't they practise together?

Serena. Simona. Ana. Petra. Venus.
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

Seriously, how hard would it be for Serena to teach Venus the kick serve?

It just boggles my mind how Serena can have such a good second serve and Venus's is AWFUL (compared to her sisters)
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

Why wont justine tell everyone how to beat her?

oh wait they beat themselves

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Don't they practise together?
I KNOW!!!

I mean during a practise match after Venus's 50th df, can't Serena just be like "OMG Ho! Toss that ball at 12 oclock and brush up the ball. Damn bitch stop giving away points"
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Why wont justine tell everyone how to beat her?

oh wait they beat themselves
WTH does this have to do with Venus's 2nd serve
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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

why can't Venus watch Serena do her second serve and try to copy it. Surely after 23 years of practising against each other she would have been able to copy it.

At the end of the day they are both different players and have different techniques.

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Re: Why Serena won't teach Venus 2nd Serve?

People think it's so easy to completely change a stroke.

Why do you think Mirza and Krajicek can't hit a kick serve, Hantuchova can't hit a serve over 175km and Elena can't hit a serve?

It's not that they don't try, it's just very hard to change a stroke that you've been using since childhood.

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