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If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

These things vary from generation to generation. Obviously, Sharapova isn't going to follow the same model of GS wins as Venus (4 of 6) or Davenport (3 of 6) or Hingis (4 of 5), all of whom, when they started winning slams, won several slams in a short period of time.

She's a bit off the Serena plan too. Win one. Nothing foe a couple years. Win a bunch.

ASV had this kind of staggered-ness to her slam wins, but she had her year where she won two. I wonder if Sharapova will fool around and let three out of Ivanovic, Vaidisova, Jankovic, Peer, Peng, Mirza, Bartoli and Safarova find slam winning form before she wins another couple more. She could have the misfortune of being one of the best players of two different eras, without ever being the dominant player on tour.

Still, once you've won the second GS singles title, you totally know you can win, it's not some kind of fluke.
She's got that over the non-slam winners.

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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

Justine is dominating at the age of 25.

Maria is 20.
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Justine is dominating at the age of 25.

Maria is 20.
Justine started her first period of domination in 2003 at the age of 21.
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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

If she is going to do something she needs to prove it. What I feel though is even before all of the 2006 when she won Wimbledon EVERYONE was blowing smoke up her ass making her to be the total owner of WTA Tour.

She is trying to add to her game? She does a few dropshots per match, tries a bit of the slice, and hits conventional volleys from time to time.

Before 2006 : Mauresmo, Henin, and Clijsters had her number. In 2006, she proved at least that she could beat them from time to time. Still, Mauresmo Henin and Clijsters have a winning head to head advantage. Add that to the fact that the Williams Sisters have seemingly figured her out AND Jankovic and Ivanovic had some wins over her this year and it doesn't look pretty.

She needs to do something soon because now that Ivanovic has gotten to a slam final and proven she's at least capable of being in the mix, Serena/Venus are seemingly healthy, and Henin will always be a factor. Her dominating, if any, will have to be post retirement of The Big 3.

Sometimes she reminds me of a bully. She can pick on the Hantuchova and the Schnyder, but when it is time to pick on someone her own size she doesn't always take the challenge.
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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

She has plenty of time. Justine only won 1 major each year in 2004, 2005 and 2006.
Maria doesn't have to win 2 a year at age 20 or 21.

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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

why you always ask questions that you already know the answer?

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Justine is dominating at the age of 25.

Maria is 20.
Justine, like Federer, has the game that takes time to blossom and mature and when it does fully, it's of the highest quality.

Sharapova has a game that has already matured in a sense. Not much that can really get better. She can add to her game, but there's not much more she can do to really retool it.

Same with Venus and Serena. Both have made changes, but nothing major.

Justine on the other hand, has a versatile game that takes longer to develop, but when it does, she can do almost anything and adapt her game to surface, opponent, or age.

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If she is going to do something she needs to prove it. What I feel though is even before all of the 2006 when she won Wimbledon EVERYONE was blowing smoke up her ass making her to be the total owner of WTA Tour.

She is trying to add to her game? She does a few dropshots per match, tries a bit of the slice, and hits conventional volleys from time to time.

Before 2006 : Mauresmo, Henin, and Clijsters had her number. In 2006, she proved at least that she could beat them from time to time. Still, Mauresmo Henin and Clijsters have a winning head to head advantage. Add that to the fact that the Williams Sisters have seemingly figured her out AND Jankovic and Ivanovic had some wins over her this year and it doesn't look pretty.

She needs to do something soon because now that Ivanovic has gotten to a slam final and proven she's at least capable of being in the mix, Serena/Venus are seemingly healthy, and Henin will always be a factor. Her dominating, if any, will have to be post retirement of The Big 3.

Sometimes she reminds me of a bully. She can pick on the Hantuchova and the Schnyder, but when it is time to pick on someone her own size she doesn't always take the challenge.
Nice analysis.

In my opinion her game was too one dimensional. For some it took some time but they found a way to beat her. It's good to see that she and her entourage know they have to add to her game. For me it's still too soon how this will turn out.
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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

The WTA suggests that players will experience their peak at the age of 24.
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Justine started her first period of domination in 2003 at the age of 21.
But not the the level she is now.
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The WTA suggests that players will experience their peak at the age of 24. Maria is still waiting to peak.
In the case of Masha I saw little of no growth in her game between her two slam wins. It's only last year she started to add to her game. We'll have to wait and see.
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But not the the level she is now.
True.

Still it was a period of domination till she fell ill in 2004.
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Re: If Sharpaova is going to dominate, isn't it about time?

If Serena and Justine get injured, she can. That's what Justine did in 2003-2004.
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In the case of Masha I saw little of no growth in her game between her two slam wins. It's only last year she started to add to her game. We'll have to wait and see.
between 2004 and 2006 she added a lot of more fittnes and she was covering the court a lot more faster I'd say. big changes for a tennis player IMO.

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Justine, like Federer, has the game that takes time to blossom and mature and when it does fully, it's of the highest quality.

Sharapova has a game that has already matured in a sense. Not much that can really get better. She can add to her game, but there's not much more she can do to really retool it.

Same with Venus and Serena. Both have made changes, but nothing major.

Justine on the other hand, has a versatile game that takes longer to develop, but when it does, she can do almost anything and adapt her game to surface, opponent, or age.
Good analysis.

I believe there is still time for Masha to improve significantly.
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