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Bartoli's Serve and other players techniques

Well I was at the park this sunday, playing with my hitting partner. We were playing a set and I broke him by creating the shap angles off my fierce 2 handed shots, but anyways I was getting a single serve in. My normal serve is a short poke at the ball that is easy to attack. So then I was thinking about Bartoli and how consistent her shots and things are. I started to imitate her servebecause I knew that her serve is consistent. So I stood at the line stood on my tippy toes and served I don't do my arm like hers but it worked. I aced him a couple times, and My serve was placing well. At 1st I tried to imitates Venus' serve motion I just love that motion so then that didn't work so I tried Serena's that didn't work so I went with Bartoli. But Bartoli's Serve really works and I was thinking if she can generate 90-100mph serves with her wrist then imagine what she could do if hers was like Justine or Venus'.

Have you guys ever done this? Imitate a players certain something?
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Well first of all, congratulate you on your aces.

So it is really two questions you are asking:
1.) Can players imitate others to improve mechanics?
2.) Can players work certain element or technique or game style (like counter-punching vs. volleyer) of another player's into his/her game?

To answer your questions, I am personally a fan of Justine. However, I would not imitate her groundstroke because hers require a lot of core strength which unless you are a dedicated athlete who does a lot of training in the core strength area, you won't be able to generate the kind of pace she hits in. This brings up the point about different body types, mechanics is very dependent on body type. Which means that it is almost impossible for Serena to play in Justine's mechanics because Serena is much taller and bulkier which means that she cannot achieve the same level of light footed-ness" as Justine even in her prime. With this being said, players can certainly work different elements into their game, like as you said, hitting with more wrist on her serves or having more shoulder turn. But at their level, their mechanics should be near perfect as much as other people criticize, because how else can they be the top of the world.

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Re: Bartoli's Serve and other players techniques

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Re: Bartoli's Serve and other players techniques

I do sometimes try to think of Henin's serve & forehand when I'm on court, it always seems to help me.



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I've copied Hantuchova's backhand, and it kept mine SOOO smooth. I also copied Farina Elia's forehand and serve, variety, and volleys. I've really picked up my results with this combination.
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Ive tried Bartoli's backhand once in a while. Once I was just fooling around at a clinic using her backhand and I hit something like 8 winners in a row off it

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LOL! Maybe Bartoli is the queen of "good" technique! LOL!

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Re: Bartoli's Serve and other players techniques

I've been copying Davenports forehand, but I think my wrist and arm muscles aren't strong enough yet and I keep hurting my wrist lol. But I just love the action she uses. I need to work on the technique more also.

Here have a look at about 0:19 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXy-a1duDC0
It looks so graceful and effortless, even though it goes out lol.
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Go Walter Bartoli! He needs to open an academy in Franceee.

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I've been copying Davenports forehand, but I think my wrist and arm muscles aren't strong enough yet and I keep hurting my wrist lol. But I just love the action she uses. I need to work on the technique more also.

Here have a look at about 0:19 seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXy-a1duDC0
It looks so graceful and effortless, even though it goes out lol.
Oh, I can tell you why you hurt your wrist cause I've been imitating Davenport's forehand, too.

To play that kind of forehand you have to make sure you're hitting the ball "a little" later than usual, but not as late as Maria Sharapova did, otherwise you'll hurt your wrist and shoulder badly for sure. And you also have to stay a liitle farer than you usually do when you hit "normal" forehand.
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Your wrist should move only after you hit your forehand.
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And don't push your forehand forward too much cause this kind of shots are usually used to create angles, not to pound it away.
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well i have the serve of Medina Garrigues (lame i know)

its not cause shes my favourite player, ive been sercving for that for liek a year now, My kicker is

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I copy Henin's backhand and her "Allez"'s on court. Her "Allez"'s do have a psychological effect on the opponent, which I like
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Re: Bartoli's Serve and other players techniques

I don't try to copy strokes of players, but sometimes as I'm playing I visualize the pros as I'm hitting to remind me to do somethings I typically don't do. I visualize Tati Golovin bending her knees on her groundstrokes when I'm hitting.. or Jelena following through with her whole body on her backhand. I did copy the beginign of Tanasugarn's serve.
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