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Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

I can never make up my mind which is which with her. I see a kind of majority saying that she's a defensive baseliner, but then when I watch her play, I see her attacking the ball with an excellent measure of defense thrown in. When she could smack the ball around off both wings and get the opponent out of position and attack, she would. Are people mistaking her defensive abilities as her ability to construct points within her large frame of power?

I could be entirely wrong here. So I want to know what your take on it is. I'm open to changing my opinion, but it's just whenever I saw her play, she always looked to be on the attack and hitting really hard. "Defensive baseliner" to me is probably Amanda Coetzer, for an example. Maybe Sanchez-Vicario too, although she had wonderful volleys.

So, is Kim Clijsters a defensive or offensive baseliner?
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Re: Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

Offensive for sure.

She just had the ability to go to the defensive too, what's great.
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Re: Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

I think Kim was a natural defensive player who had to be agressive if she wanted to win. At her best she was definatly an agressive baseliner but at some point of her career she was just hitting and waiting.
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I think Kim was a natural defensive player who had to be agressive if she wanted to win. At her best she was definatly an agressive baseliner but at some point of her career she was just hitting and waiting.
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I think Kim was a natural defensive player who had to be agressive if she wanted to win. At her best she was definatly an agressive baseliner but at some point of her career she was just hitting and waiting.
Agreed. As good as her defense was, she didn't win matches by getting balls back. She won by being aggressive and controlling the rallys.
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When she plays just defensively, she's boring to watch.
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Re: Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

I think she was naturally offensive.. in that she had all the gifts and talents of an offensive player and I think that was when she was at her best.

However, IMO, she had a tendency to play defensively. As a fan, I hated when she would just get balls back and not play aggressively.

I think people see her great ability to cover the court(her splits sticking out in people's mind) and the fact that she usually wasnt as aggressive as Davenport, Venus, Serena, Sharapova, etc. and think of her as a defensive player. However, I wouldnt personally categorize her as that... just my opinion though. She's somewhat of a hybrid, leaning towards the offensive side.

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defensive. she was at her best offensively but she seemed to be behind the baseline retrieving against the top players.

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I can never make up my mind which is which with her. I see a kind of majority saying that she's a defensive baseliner, but then when I watch her play, I see her attacking the ball with an excellent measure of defense thrown in. When she could smack the ball around off both wings and get the opponent out of position and attack, she would. Are people mistaking her defensive abilities as her ability to construct points within her large frame of power?

I could be entirely wrong here. So I want to know what your take on it is. I'm open to changing my opinion, but it's just whenever I saw her play, she always looked to be on the attack and hitting really hard. "Defensive baseliner" to me is probably Amanda Coetzer, for an example. Maybe Sanchez-Vicario too, although she had wonderful volleys.

So, is Kim Clijsters a defensive or offensive baseliner?


come on, this is an unbelievably stupid question. You don't win 90 matches in a year, win a Slam title and get to world #1 position by being a "defensive baseliner". Think about it. Kim game had great offense and power. She wasnt destroying all those opponents with her defense.
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come on, this is an unbelievably stupid question. You don't win 90 matches in a year, win a Slam title and get to world #1 position by being a "defensive baseliner". Think about it. Kim game had great offense and power. She wasnt destroying all those opponents with her defense.
You took the words right out of my mouth IMO a defensive baseliner is a player who runs from side to side and just waits for the opponent's mistake by tossing each ball high up in the air. Kim often/always took the initiative with her powerful fore- and backhands during the rally, but she also had a wondeful defense. People sometimes mix it up a bit I think.

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I think Kim was a natural defensive player who had to be agressive if she wanted to win. At her best she was definatly an agressive baseliner but at some point of her career she was just hitting and waiting.
This could be said of most players though couldn't it ?

Though I wouldn't have said it any different, IMHO a summary of Kim's game would be to say she was too defensive when it really mattered.
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Re: Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

Against most players, offensive. Against the top players, a little less so.
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Re: Kim Clijsters: offensive or defensive baseliner?

She is naturally offensive, the thing is that her defense was superb...

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