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Hingis. She won more big tournaments 24 34.78%
Venus. Two slams vs none. What kind of idiot are you? 45 65.22%
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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old Nov 18th, 2007, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

Hingis won nine tournaments in 2000, including the YEC plus five Tier I's. Venus didn't even win ONE Tier I tournament in 2000. But she won two slams.

So who was more 'dominant'?

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

Well this an intelligent thread worth taking the time to respond to, and it poses a very interesting question.

It's a tricky one for sure. Even though Venus had that amazing winning streak in 2000 and won 2/3 slams AND the Olympics, as opposed to 2/4 in 2001; I've always felt 2001 was perhaps a more dominant and generally a better year from Venus.

And the question really is did Martina dominate at all in 2000? I don't think she did, but she was the most consistent player in the top three, so she does hold certain claims to 2000. She certainly had a lot of big successes of her own also. But even if Venus didn't dominate for all of 2000, only really 3 months or so in fact, I do think that she was by and large the player to beat that year even if she missed large parts of it. It was her year really.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

It is definitely Venus. The advantage Hingis had was that she played the first four months, while Venus didn't. In that four months, Hingis won Hamburg, Tokyo and Miami, I believe. She didn't really capitalize too much on Venus' absence. When Venus came back, they were on equal playing grounds - Venus defeated Hingis and Davenport throughout the second half. Two Grand Slams and the Olympics, plus three other tournaments, is sensational for one half of a tennis season.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

pathetic attempt to vanish hingis career.
venus had the most dominant year, obviously.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

Overall dominance I would say Hingis

But Venus accomplished more

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

hrmmm... let me see..... Venus vs. Hingis in 2000 Head to head venus 2-0......

If comparing same year to see whose was more dominant.... look at that stat.... Hingis also had a losing record against Davneport And was 50/50 with Serena.... it clear who was more dominant...
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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

I voted for Venus because she had that great streak in the summer. But I still think 2000 was Davenport-Hingis territory. They both held number 1 for the year and in the first half, played all the big finals, and finished as numbers 1 and 2. Venus did achieve the most with 3 major wins, but Davenport and Hingis dominated better throughout the whole year.
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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

What were their winning percentages for the year?

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What were their winning percentages for the year?
Venus was 44-4 I believe and Hingis was 77-10.
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Venus was 44-4 I believe and Hingis was 77-10.
Thanks. Clearly, it's Venus then. Like I said in the other thread, it's all about winning percentages.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

This is sooo last century.
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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

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Venus was 44-4 I believe and Hingis was 77-10.
Actually it's 41-4 (WTA results + Olympics) or 35-4 (WTA results only)

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This is sooo last century.
Yes and it makes me feel so damn old!

I would have to say that Venus dominated the second half of 2000 while Hingis was the more consistent overall. Yes, Venus didn't play in the first four months of that year but that doesn't necessarily mean that if she did play, she would dominate it the way she did at the second half of the year.

I believe that the Wimbledon QF win against Hingis was the pivotal match in Venus' 2000 season. After that, there was no stopping Venus.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

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Thanks. Clearly, it's Venus then. Like I said in the other thread, it's all about winning percentages.
Nope, it's about slams. Winning percentages can be misleading. Which matches you win and which matches you lose is much more important than how many you win out of all your matches. Venus could have been 44-10 and lost 10 matches in lots of smaller tournaments but she would have still had the better year.

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Re: Who had the more dominant year: Hingis 2000 or Venus 2000?

I'd say Hingis w/ the YEC - the many other titles of the year/ Finals in Melbourne/SF in Paris and a good showing in New York.



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