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Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Gambling and match selling certainly seems to be appearing a lot on the tennis courts these days. Would you say the ATP has a real problem on their hands?
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

I know this is only some stupid pole but without doubt it does.
And not just the ATP, but WTA as well.

In fact, all sports in general have a bigger gambling problem then anyone thinks.


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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

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I know this is only some stupid pole but without doubt it does.
And not just the ATP, but WTA as well.

I dont agree, the WTA does not have a gambling problem. That's because the women are not considered reliable enough by the gamblers to sell the match in a "professional" way and to keep it secret. ATP though, they have a problems for sure.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

I dont think so tbh!

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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Yes it does.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

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I dont agree, the WTA does not have a gambling problem. That's because the women are not considered reliable enough by the gamblers to sell the match in a "professional" way and to keep it secret. ATP though, they have a problems for sure.

just check who has the same manager in wta and some shocking wins won't be so shocking.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Personally, I think the WTA is the perfect place for match rigging:

No one cares for early matches in tournaments involving unknown players.
Fishy results don't bother anyone because women are always inconsistent.
WTA officials have NO interest in investigating strange happenings as they don't want to tarnish their clean image.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

STUTTGART, Germany -- A women's tennis match drew suspicion for unusual betting patterns, and the WTA Tour was investigating Thursday -- two months after the men's tour began a probe into gambling on a match.


*******, an online betting site, briefly delayed payment after 120th-ranked Mariya Koryttseva beat No. 96 Tatiana Poutchek of Belarus 6-4, 6-2 on Sept. 21 in the quarterfinals of the Sunfeast Open in India.


Eventually, bets were paid out, and both the WTA and ******* said they doubt there was any wrongdoing connected to the match.


"We have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to gambling-related activity, and we have been in close contact with ******* and are investigating this situation,'' WTA vice president of communications Andrew Walker said Thursday at the tour's event in Stuttgart.


"To be clear, at this time there is no indication of any wrongdoing by anyone, including the players, their support teams, officials or staff members,'' Walker added.


******* director of communications Mark Davies would not discuss why the match raised suspicions, nor would he say how much money was wagered on it.


"We had some concerns so we delayed settlement, but you can see by the fact that we settled that we were happy,'' Davies said.


He said several reasons could contribute to a delay in settlement.

"I would guess there was a movement in prices, but it might as easily have been the behavior of just one particular account,'' Davies said.

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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

If it's true of the ATP then I don't doubt it happens in the WTA.

In fact it's probably even easier to fix matches under the cover of 'no depth on the WTA tour' excuses.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Tennis probably always has had a gambling problem.

Bobby Riggs admitted that he used to bet on himself all the time.
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

I think most players occasionally tank because they don't skip an event when exhausted to avoid losing bonus money and/or being fined. Given that, I'd guess that the player in question (especially if the favorite) might tell someone they trust, and like or owe a favor to bet against them.

Incidentally, the censorship of the word "B_etfair" is an insult to everyone here, given that company's prominence in this ongoing tennis news story. (Like that of pr0xy, as if the trolls don't already know what such a server is).
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Women’s tour investigate illegal betting


By Mark Hodgkinson

Last Updated: 9:05am BST 04/10/2007




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A leading online betting firm admitted last night that they had delayed payment on bets laid on a women's match played in India after becoming concerned about what appeared to be irregular gambling patterns.
Mariya Koryttseva's Kolkata Sunfeast Open quarter-final has come under under scrutiny
The disclosure from ******* is the first time it has been admitted that a contest on the women's tour has come under such close scrutiny. It comes in the wake of revelations, however, that a number of players on the men's tour, including Britain's Arvind Parmar and Belgium's Gilles Elseneer, have turned down approaches to throw matches.
The women's match in question was the quarter-final of a tournament in Kolkata two weeks ago, played by Tatiana Poutchek, the world No 96 from Belarus, and Ukrainian Mariya Koryttseva, ranked 120th. Koryttseva won 6-4, 6-2, but officials at ******* contacted the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour to inform them that they were delaying payment as they felt there was reason to investigate what seemed to be suspicious betting patterns during the match.
It is understood that almost £1 million had been wagered on the outcome.
*******, who retain a large fraud and security department, conducted an investigation of the circumstances surrounding the match. However, even though they then felt satisfied to go ahead with all the payments, Andrew Walker, the vice president of the WTA Tour, told The Daily Telegraph yesterday that they were "investigating this situation", but emphasised that, "at this time", there was no indication of any wrongdoing on the part of the players or their entourages.

Since 2005, ******* have had a memorandum of understanding with the WTA Tour, which means that the bookmakers alert the governing body about any suspicions they might have. Mark Davies, *******'s director of communications, said he believed that it was the first time that they had looked at a women's match so closely.
"We need to be certain that the markets are clean," Davies said. "We delayed settlement. We then settled as normal. We wanted to check that we were happy, and in the end we were."
In August, ******* refused to pay out on more than £3 million of bets which had been put on the outcome of Nikolay Davydenko's match against a little-known Argentine player at a tournament in Poland. Davydenko, the world No 4 from Russia, retired from the match in the third set after citing an injury, and he is presently being investigated by the ATP.
"We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to gambling-related activity," added Walker, "and we have been in close contact with ******* and are investigating this situation. To be clear, at this time there is no indication of any wrongdoing by anyone."

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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

This is the key sentence. This is much more than these players earn.

It is understood that almost £1 million had been wagered on the outcome.

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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

£1 million = about $2 million


That means TOP5 paychecks in tennis history is:

1. Nikolay Davydenko, Sopot 2007 2nd rounders - $6 millions
2. Roger Federer, USO 2007 winner (with USO series bonus) - $2.4 million
3. Kim Clijsters, USO 2005 winner (with USO series bonus) - $2.2 million
4. Tatiana Poutcheck, Kolkata 2007 quarterfinalist - $2 million
5. Maria Sharapova, USO 2006 winner (with USO series bonus) - $1.6 million

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Re: Does Tennis have a gambling problem?

Big time and with the emerging of poor nations into tennis,the problem is gonna get bigger.The problem is mainly emanating from eastern europe.
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