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Does anyone have the old 2001 format on ranking???

Does anyone have the 2001 ranking process that gives how many points you get for each round and how many for beating a quality opponent, thanks...
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Trn W F SF QF r16 r32 r64 r128
GS 520 364 234 130 72 44 26 2
Chps 390 273 175 97 54
T1 260 182 117 65 36 22 13 1
T2 200 140 90 50 26 14 1
T3 155 110 71 39 20 11 1
T4 140 98 63 35 18 10 1
T5 80 56 36 20 10 1


Quality Points are the same as this year.
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QUALITY POINTS HAVE CHANGED BY A FACTOR OF 1.5 IN THE GRAND SLAMS.
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did the amount of money for example Tier 2 - 585,000 and Tier 2 650,000 make a difference in points??



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not until this year

Qualify points in Slams changed from x1.5 to x2 a few years ago

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also how about the number of players for tier 1, 2, and 3??



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they were all 1 level of points

only Key Biscayne was on a different level to other Tier I's until 1997 when they revised the rankings

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so if you were entered in a tier one 32 player tournament and lost first round you would get 22 points..??



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nope only 1

all 1st rd loses =1pt Grand Slams =2pts
only at year end champs does a 1st rd loser gain more than 1

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okay then...so second round losers get 36??So from 1 point to 36?? I calculated how many points venus received at the US Open using the quality points system that is currently being used and the 2001 ranking system round points and they were correct. So they started using the current quality point system starting at the US open??




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The current quality point system started in 1998.

As for second round losers, they get whatever points are specified for that round of the tournament (r16, r32, r64). So in your example, a 32-draw Tier 1, yes, you would get 36 round points for reaching the second round.

Another note: players who have a first round bye, or advance by Walkover, who then lose in the second round get treated like 1st round losers (1 point.)
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so quality points have never been changed...



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post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 20th, 2002, 10:48 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong.

Technically, if you lose your first match, you get 1 point. It doesn't matter what round it is.

Suppose you got a bye into the 2nd round then got a walkover into the 3rd round. If you lose your 3rd round match (which would really be your first match), you get 1 point.

You would still get the prize money for whatever round you reached.

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Quality points have changed over the past decade. In 1997, you got the same QP as now for regular tournaments, but only 50% more for slams. (150 for beating #1 in a slam, etc.) The 50% slam bonus ran from 1994-97. In 1992-93, QP were the same for all tournaments, with no slam bonus.

From 1993-96, the QP scale was lower, with only 75 points for beating #1. In 1992, you only got 58 points for beating #1.

Another curious note from 1992 is the relationship between slams and tour events in round points. Some writers complained last year that too few round points were allocated for the slams (twice a Tier I), and insisted something was "obviously" wrong with that. Yet these same writers said nothing 10 years ago, when winning a slam gave you only 75% more round points than winning a Tier 2.
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