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Jennifer Capriati

She has been gone for many years now and there's no sign of coming back to the tour.
She has one of the best forehands ever. Her serve is also one of the greatest. Her movement is also impeccable. I dunno if she will ever come back and play again on the tour but no one can deny her talent and she would have had a great career if the injure hadn't plagued her. I guess she shouldn't have used drugs but she learned a lot from the past and made the greatest come back the sport has ever witnessed. I would rank her come back from juvenile delinquency above Seles' come back from the stabbing. I would think so really?
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I don't think her serve is one of the greatest, especially today. If she would have stayed fit, she would have been able to set up her shots better, winning more matches, possibly a slam or two like RG 2004 and USO 2004. It would be great if she could come back, though. I could see her beating a lot of the top ten.
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She has been gone for many years now and there's no sign of coming back to the tour.
She has one of the best forehands ever. Her serve is also one of the greatest. Her movement is also impeccable. I dunno if she will ever come back and play again on the tour but no one can deny her talent and she would have had a great career if the injure hadn't plagued her. I guess she shouldn't have used drugs but she learned a lot from the past and made the greatest come back the sport has ever witnessed. I would rank her come back from juvenile delinquency above Seles' come back from the stabbing. I would think so really?
Capriati have one of the greatest serves? This whole post was stupid.
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Capriati have one of the greatest serves? This whole post was stupid.
Jen did when her somewhat unpredictable toss came down in the right spot. The problem was that it often didn't, making her kind of "chase the ball" and almost punch it in. Re. any comeback, I doubt that hers (or Chanda's, outside chance Monica's) will be much longer than Sandrine's after she had her baby. (Sort of an encore, in theatrical terminology).
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She has been gone for many years now and there's no sign of coming back to the tour.
She has one of the best forehands ever. Her serve is also one of the greatest. Her movement is also impeccable. I dunno if she will ever come back and play again on the tour but no one can deny her talent and she would have had a great career if the injure hadn't plagued her. I guess she shouldn't have used drugs but she learned a lot from the past and made the greatest come back the sport has ever witnessed. I would rank her come back from juvenile delinquency above Seles' come back from the stabbing. I would think so really?
The greatest comeback ever for the sport?
Agassi and Musters´s comebacks tops Capriati´s.

And IMO her serve was great when she was a teenager, and also her backhand, when she cameback, her serve was terrible and her forehand became her stronger weapon off the ground.

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Her forehand and movement are/were some of the best on the tour. Her backhand was no slouch either.... very solid and with winners as well. Her serve as a teenager was very good... she was one of the 1st females to regulary hit serves above 100 MPH. In her 2nd career, her 2nd serve would get her in trouble now and then, with some double faults... but she also went for a lot of her 2nd serves...... I thought in 2004 her serve was much improved and right up there in the top 10 served on the tour.. she was starting to get 1st serves in as fast 118-119 MPH with more aces and more unreturnable serves and many matches her 1st serve % was right around 70%. I also thought her 2nd serve was a ton better after working with Paul Annacone in the end of 2003 and then Heinz Gundhart in 2004... was less Double Faults and better placement and spin.

As far as a comeback, she is still trying to get her shoulder fixed and is hopefull to return next year. She had another surgery on it in the end of September that was reported to hopefully do the trick. She is rumored to playing some charity exho's late this year.. She is still in great shape, has kept up her fitness, and as Stefano said in 2003.. Jen doesn't need to hit a lot of balls to get her rythem going. If she can get the shoulder fixed, I could easily see her have a 3rd career with solid results and a top 10 ranking. She regulary carried 2800-2900 ranking points in 2002-2004... with those types of #s that would put her #4 today in the rankings... Jen also plays her best when expectations are low... if she came back no one would expect her to do too much... which is perfect for Jen. Jen is just like some of the other greats... Agassi, Davenport, etc... it doesnt so much matter their age.... their tennis ability and ball striking ability always puts them in the upper echelon of the game.

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Jen did when her somewhat unpredictable toss came down in the right spot. The problem was that it often didn't, making her kind of "chase the ball" and almost punch it in. Re. any comeback, I doubt that hers (or Chanda's, outside chance Monica's) will be much longer than Sandrine's after she had her baby. (Sort of an encore, in theatrical terminology).
She could hit some big serves here and there, but here whole service action was a dissaster, and she used to double fault a lot especially in the important points.

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Sabatini 24 Martinez 17
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Sabatini has 2 titles 2 Runner up and 3 SF
Martinez has 0 titles, 0 RU, and 0 Sf
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Sabatini 40% Martinez 21%
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Im talking about Jen post-1999...and her serve was hardly one of the best ever. When it clicked it was effective, but she had a horrible toss and too many double faults. Her forehand was one of the best during her era, but not ever. Her movement however, was phenominal. She scrambled better than anyone in the game, on par if not better then Jankovic's and Clijsters when she was at her best.
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Im talking about Jen post-1999...and her serve was hardly one of the best ever. When it clicked it was effective, but she had a horrible toss and too many double faults. Her forehand was one of the best during her era, but not ever. Her movement however, was phenominal. She scrambled better than anyone in the game, on par if not better then Jankovic's and Clijsters when she was at her best.
So true, I agree!
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Re: Jennifer Capriati

I'm looking forward to yet another comeback!

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Re: Jennifer Capriati

Jennifer's movement was always incredible.

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Another really good clip, especially at 01:22 and02:54:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wEaR-gFLH0

This and the V. Williams/Hingis '00 semifinals are the two best USO matches of the past 10 years.


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I would love her to come back sooooo much but Im getting used to the fact that she s pretty much retired

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Among the best serves? NEVER not even in the conversation.

Jenn was one of the best scramblers on the court and had solid clean groundstrokes. Loved her fight and determination. I think if she were to come back fit and healthy she would have more impact on the tour than say Martina Hingis in her comeback.

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I agree that Jennifer had a great serve as a teenager (even had a kickserve, and would hit the ball much more flat). When she came back, she lost that ability (not sure why, but the serve is the shot a player has most control of) and she began coming around the ball and spinning them. Even so, she spun serves in at 110 mph which was incredible. Her forehand, backhand (esp. down-the-line) were amazing -- so was her movement. If only she had kept her fitness level high (she looked great at OZ02 -- very lean and muscular) and got a serving coach; she would've had had at least 3 more slams. Oh well, as they say: hindsight is 20/20.
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