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Are Rivalries Dead??

Following tennis this week, I just thought it was a shame that Justine Henin and Venus Williams always seem to avoid each other. That made me realize that we don't have anymore rivalries at this point in time in tennis. The only thing that comes close in my mind was the rivalry between Mauresmo and Henin in 2006. We really dont see the top slam winners/challengers go at it much anymore like they used to.

Hingis-V. Williams: 11 times between 1998-1999
Hingis-Davenport: 20 times between 1997-2001
Serena-JCap: 9 times between 2000-2002

Rivalries help generate fans and buzz around tennis. They create drama, great matches, and sustain interest. Does anyone think we'll see something like Hinis-WilliamsX2 or Venus-LIndsay or Capriati-Serena? I think there's a lot of potential to the Venus-Justine matchup but I doubt these players will ever play the same tournaments except slams and maybe Miami.

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When will you learn that "pushers" never make it past the club level, let alone #1 on the WTA computer? Will it be too late?
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its because the only people who can consistently challenge justine, don't hardly play any tournaments, and usually not the ones that she plays

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Re: Are Rivalries Dead??

Jankovic - Williams

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Maria Sharapova/Jelena Jankovic/Justine Henin

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Re: Are Rivalries Dead??

Sharapova - Williams is always interesting.

My Favourites: Dancevic, Hantuchova, Gasquet, Golovin, Roddick, Sharapova, Stepanek
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The WTA tour has deer in the headlights syndrome right now. Who knows when they'll wake up from this nightmare
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its because the only people who can consistently challenge justine, don't hardly play any tournaments, and usually not the ones that she plays
So very true!
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Sharapova - Williams is always interesting.
Are you serious?? or is this thinly veiled sarcasm

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When will you learn that "pushers" never make it past the club level, let alone #1 on the WTA computer? Will it be too late?
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Maria Sharapova vs Serena Williams is a fan rivalry, not an actual rivalry.

Of course, women's tennis suffers from having had the greatest individual rivalry in the history of sports. Compared to Evert-Navratilova, nothing we have today comes close to a rivalry.

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Re: Are Rivalries Dead??

Jankovic - Venus is a good matchup.

Daniela Hantuchova.

Casey Dellacqua, Jelena Jankovic, Anna-Lena Groenefeld,
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Venus - Jankovic has been very interesting..
you'll never know whos gonna win!!!

then Justine - Janko
its suppose to be nice, but Janko needs a win...
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Are you serious?? or is this thinly veiled sarcasm
What's the problem?

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Sharapova is 5-6 combined against the Williams sisters. The matches are usually dramatic and two of them stick out as two of the best matches in recent years (AO '05 and WIM '05).

My Favourites: Dancevic, Hantuchova, Gasquet, Golovin, Roddick, Sharapova, Stepanek
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What's the problem?
Maria vs. Venus:

6-3, 6-4
6-4, 6-3 >>two okay matches
7-6, 6-1 >>only the first set is good
2-6, 6-2, 7-5 >>god-awful
6-1, 6-3 >>complete beatdown

Maria vs. Serena

6-4, 6-3 >>didn't see it, cant tell
6-1, 6-4 >>not competitive
4-6, 6-2, 6-4 >>awful ending to a fairly good match
2-6, 7-5, 8-6 >>Very high in drama, pretty good in quality
6-1, 6-2
6-1, 6-1

Sharapova-Williams hasn't provided a good match in over two years.

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Re: Are Rivalries Dead??

I think Serena vs. Henin is a rivalry, we've had like 4 matches this year and I won't be surprised if we get another one before the season ends.

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I think Serena vs. Henin is a rivalry, we've had like 4 matches this year and I won't be surprised if we get another one before the season ends.
I think so too. You know it's going to be a good match whenever these two are up against each other, especially because they are both very competitive and don't like losing against each other.
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