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What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

i hate it..
Venus shots r suppose to be like a laser shot..
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

well it doesn't change their speed through the air so really if it was going to be a clean winner it still will be

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well it doesn't change their speed through the air so really if it was going to be a clean winner it still will be
So ummm... what about clay? Or is the air in Paris slower or something?
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

no i mean a hard surface the speed doesn't differ that much, it will never be any where near as slow as clay

i meant in regards to hard courts, clean winners will be clean winners, but generally the shots won't force as many errors

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no i mean a hard surface the speed doesn't differ that much, it will never be any where near as slow as clay

i meant in regards to hard courts, clean winners will be clean winners, but generally the shots won't force as many errors
like duh..!!
clean winners will always be a clean winner anywhere..
the shots are usually straight through...

but...now, it seems like theres more air to it..
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I am mainly annoyed with Wimbledon. The grass there is way slower than it used to be. There is no variety anymore. Nowadays you can switch from clay to grass without too much effort and that's just wrong. In past decades winning RG and Wimbledon in a row was considered as one of the greatest achievements in tennis because of the difference between both surfaces and utterly different style of play you had to use to win it. Now it's not as difficult anymore. On every surface nowadays we basically see baseline hardcourt tennis. Players don't have to be skilled volleyers to go far in Wimbledon (btw. 75% of the current top 20 players are horrible at the net ). I appreciate long rallies but I also miss the variety. Remember how Federer played to win his first Wimbledon in 2003, he served and volleyed, last years he didn't. Also to have a player like Nadal (nothing against him) in Wimbledon final back to back is ridiculous. Claycourts on the other hand have been speed up a bit. There is no significant difference among the surfaces anymore and that's not good.
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

I am getting kind of tired of what appears to be a blending of the surfaces into all medium speed

Wimbledon has become ridiculous.. the fact that a player can advance through the draw without having to hit a volley means something is wrong. Those that mentioned that a majority of the top players can't volley is right. With the exception of Justine, Amelie, Hingis, Venus & Davenport, top women players with above average volley skills are rare... & yes the fact that Rafael Nadal can advance to the Wimbledon final, regardless of if you like him or not, shows the surface is ridiculously slow. Players wouldn't have had any chance to run down certain shots on grass even a couple of years ago. I'm not saying I want to see Venus, Davenport or Molik, etc. trade aces for an entire match, but having variety among the surfaces is what made each GS unique.

Also, some are saying the AO surface is an echo of the USO... idk much about what they've installed, but if that's true it's disappointing.
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

As for Australian Open, I am not sure whether it will be a US Open clone. The new surface is made by the same company that made the surface used at Indian Wells which is considered as a slower hardcourt.

I tried to google something more about it.
http://www.plexipave.com/systems/ten...xicushion.html
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So ummm... what about clay? Or is the air in Paris slower or something?
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

wimbledon has been slow for a grasscourt since around 2000

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the AO will be very similar to the Rebound ace it had in the past, just it doesn't hold the heat and get sticky

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So ummm... what about clay? Or is the air in Paris slower or something?
'Tis a little-known fact that Paris air is indeed the slowest in the world.
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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

Honestly the court surface really doesn't matter on the WTA tour until you get to the higher levels of the game. Women on the whole can play on anything. The WTA really doesn't have court specialist like they have on the ATP.

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I am mainly annoyed with Wimbledon. The grass there is way slower than it used to be. There is no variety anymore. Nowadays you can switch from clay to grass without too much effort and that's just wrong. In past decades winning RG and Wimbledon in a row was considered as one of the greatest achievements in tennis because of the difference between both surfaces and utterly different style of play you had to use to win it. Now it's not as difficult anymore. On every surface nowadays we basically see baseline hardcourt tennis. Players don't have to be skilled volleyers to go far in Wimbledon (btw. 75% of the current top 20 players are horrible at the net ). I appreciate long rallies but I also miss the variety. Remember how Federer played to win his first Wimbledon in 2003, he served and volleyed, last years he didn't. Also to have a player like Nadal (nothing against him) in Wimbledon final back to back is ridiculous. Claycourts on the other hand have been speed up a bit. There is no significant difference among the surfaces anymore and that's not good.
When was the last timea woman won Rg then wimby, it was serena who couuld have pl;ayed on ice had she been asked to. Top women are not as surface specific as the lower ranked ones.
Nadal has become an all surface player even though he reamians the king of clay.

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Re: What do you guys think bout these suppose to be fast courts gone slower??

Some great posts here. Having the Slams on four different surfaces should make the game exciting. There's room for all of them. Admittedly Wimbledon probably had to slow the surface to counteract the serve's dominance but unfortunately has gone much too far.

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