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Top ten players in Tier III/IV events

Someone was complaining about Venus playing low tier events on another board and this was pointed out. The following top ten players have played at least two Tier III/IV events.

Jankovic
Sharapova
Ivanovic
Chakvetadze
V. Williams
Hantuchova

Jankovic and Hantuchova have played 5 tier III events. Bangkok will be Jankovic 6th tier III. But it seems now everyone on EVERY tennis board is talking about Venus in low tier events as if she is the only top ten player who play them.
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Oct 6th, 2007, 02:06 AM
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Venus won 6 slams.She's on the same planet than all the other playrs you mention.Maybe people are bitching about Venus because it's a different thing to play a lower tournie coming back from injury (like she did in Memphis, or like Sharapova did in Istambul) and play a Tier IV when you're a Wimbledon winner and semi finalist at USO.
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Venus won 6 slams.She's on the same planet than all the other playrs you mention.Maybe people are bitching about Venus because it's a different thing to play a lower tournie coming back from injury (like she did in Memphis, or like Sharapova did in Istambul) and play a Tier IV when you're a Wimbledon winner and semi finalist at USO.
Venus committed to Seoul when she was struggling. IT's been said a million times

I'm proud of her for keeping her commitment

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When will you learn that "pushers" never make it past the club level, let alone #1 on the WTA computer? Will it be too late?
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Venus committed to Seoul when she was struggling. IT's been said a million times

I'm proud of her for keeping her commitment
and could u please explain
her decision to play TOKYO
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Venus committed to Seoul when she was struggling. IT's been said a million times

I'm proud of her for keeping her commitment
She committed months ago.I'm sure that she was'nt thinking : I'll still be ranked 50 in October.Committing to Bejing (for example) would have been more logic.
I have no problem with Venus playing where she wants to play, but some people shouldn't be surprised that others think it's strange and a little "cheap way" to compete.
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She committed months ago.I'm sure that she was'nt thinking : I'll still be ranked 50 in October.Committing to Bejing (for example) would have been more logic.
I have no problem with Venus playing where she wants to play, but some people shouldn't be surprised that others think it's strange and a little "cheap way" to compete.
How is it a cheap way? Venus hasn't been in teh top 10 in two years. I'm sure she didn't expect to be in that position. Why not play a Tier IV to get things rolling and build up confidence? People are only complaining because Venus is playing like a top 3 player right now. Things weren't that way months ago and no one would have complained at that point.

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She committed months ago.I'm sure that she was'nt thinking : I'll still be ranked 50 in October.Committing to Bejing (for example) would have been more logic.
I have no problem with Venus playing where she wants to play, but some people shouldn't be surprised that others think it's strange and a little "cheap way" to compete.
I recall a certain RIP Venus Williams Career thread not long before her comeback this year People were writing her off. It's not like most people expected Venus to win Wimbledon this year or even win big matches against opponents like Jankovic after losing to her so much. Every competitor that's worth their salt will believe they can go as high as is possible, but believing in it and producing the result are two different things. Had Venus not won Wimbledon, people probably wouldn't be bitching so much now. Her draw at the US Open would have been worse and she could have well stayed in the lower rankings if that had been the case. This isn't just about Venus deciding to play a lower tier tournament against low ranked competitors, though, because each of the tournaments offer her a hefty appearance fee and I agree with the person that said she's probably interested in trying new things. She's won as much as anyone, she's entitled to try new venues. I imagine if there were more upper tier tournaments in Asia, she would be doing them.
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How is it a cheap way? Venus hasn't been in teh top 10 in two years. I'm sure she didn't expect to be in that position. Why not play a Tier IV to get things rolling and build up confidence? People are only complaining because Venus is playing like a top 3 player right now. Things weren't that way months ago and no one would have complained at that point.
exactly
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Venus or any other player should be allowed/can play where they want to play.
it will be beneficial for lower tier/ranked players to have the oppurtunity to play a top player in a competitive match.

at least she plays in tier IV event competitively and win....
unlike the others who are treating these events as exhibition and just play there for appearance money...later withdrawing citing injuries....

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There's nothing wrong with it. If she thinks this is better preparation for the YEC, then she should do it. And in the end, she kept her commitments from earlier this year and didn't bail despite being the reigning Wimbledon champ/USO semifinalist. If she withdrew from these events and decided to play Stuttgart, people would be criticizing her for that! There's no love on WTAW. Sometimes people need to be quiet and just be happy to see the top names playing anywhere at all, especially considering all the injuries and pull-outs in the last few years.

It's also really great for the fans in these cities to see a huge name and for the rest of the field to get to have the experience of playing Venus Williams.
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Re: Top ten players in Tier III/IV events

Muller plays 75k's right?

Daniela Hantuchova.

Casey Dellacqua, Jelena Jankovic, Anna-Lena Groenefeld,
Jelena Dokic, Mirjana Lucic, Sara Tomic, Sloane Stephens
Melanie Oudin, Kiki Bertens, Kaia Kanepi, Alison Riske
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