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Do you think "BYE" system is Fair? (for Tier I & II)

A lot of WTA Tournament providing a "BYE" system for the seeded players (Let say #.1-8) for Tier I or II

Do you think this system is fair enough? Because normally The seeded players are The TOP 10/20 Players....All of them have already on The TOP of the Ranking, and they still have an advantage to gain this BYE, How about for the Lower Ranking Player...???

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Well the top players should be given bye's because if they weren't they'd still win the match like 6-1 6-1 so why play it? There's enough injuries from overplaying, why make the top players play a stupid first round when they'll win it blindfolded.
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i think in a 32-players draw should be no bye´s, cause i think you should win at least 5 matches to get the title.

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Well the top players should be given bye's because if they weren't they'd still win the match like 6-1 6-1 so why play it? There's enough injuries from overplaying, why make the top players play a stupid first round when they'll win it blindfolded.

but maybe the bye in the 1st round is the reason why few player play so many tournaments - like dokic.

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DEFINATELY IT IS FAIR-for instance, after Conchita wins the US Open she will be playing most likely in th tournament after-that means she will have to play the day or second day after her victorious 3 set thriller 20-18 over Jelena Dokic in the final. So it is natural that she be given a bye in the next tournament!

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Forget "fair" or "unfair"-it's bad for events because it means spoiled and pampered stars can arrive late(as late as Wednesday in some cases) and often don't play a match until Thursday. Yes, most tournaments don't really sell tickets until the semis anyhow, but it robs events of early momentum, excitement, and ticket sales.

Blame Evert and Navratilova for the current system. They were the ones who pushed for it in the mid 80s. Chris and Martina were great for the WTA, but the "bye" rule for the top seeds in regular tour events was not their finest moment.
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I think it's fair because generally the Top players goes far in the tournament so if one of them make the final the week #1, and it's not fair to play on Monday the first round of the week #2

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I think it's unfair.

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Even if they wern't given byes the top women wouldn't be playing on Monday. With 7 days the first 4 days are given over to the first 2 rounds.
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Rollo ......... even if they have byes they are still obliged to come early especially if they are gold exempt to perfom duties

Still i would like no byes at all in draws of 32, giving 4 extra players a place in maindraw.

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I think it is generally fair... less matches... less injuries don't you think?

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didn't grand slams also have first round bye's long before evert and nav were there?

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And how often has that rule been overlooked Boiled?

Yes Irma, slams gave out byes in the past to seeds, but that was because they limited the draw to numbers like 96 or 48. At Wimbledon byes were scattered, not just given to top seeds. There was an exception to that. In the 1972 French all the top women were given byes in the first two rounds!
If you go to the Blast From the Past Forum, me and Brian have put up many of the grand slam draws

It's only been since 1988 that all 4 slams have had nice set draws of 128.
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I don't like byes myself. It is a bit ridiculous if you're at a tournament all week and don't see Venus or Lindsay until Thursday night Plus, I think it's actually a disadvantage to the player receiving the bye sometimes. How many times have we seen the seed knocked out by a player who had a great first round and just kept on rolling? Even if the players had to all play first round, they still wouldn't see action until Tuesday at the earliest most likely, or maybe Monday night for a top player who wasn't in a final or semi the weekend prior. Plus, like Eggy said, that's four more players who would get a shot....even if they get bageled, it's all experience.
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Plus giving byes to players spolils the structure of the event when sometimes 1 QF is played on the Thursday even before some have even finished their 2nd rd match

thats what i hate.

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